In this episode, we sit down with Jeza Belle: drag queen, author, comedian and the first drag queen in history to publish a Christian devotional, for one of the most surprising, thoughtful and moving conversations.

✨ We talk queer spirituality, reconciling religion and sexuality, grace, and why faith doesn’t belong to bigots. Jeza opens up about growing up Jewish-Christian, evangelical culture shock, coming out later in life, and why drag became both ministry and rebellion. We also dive into her award-winning queer historical fiction and the controversy surrounding her interracial slave-era romance novel, exploring power, race, desire and historical truth with nuance and care.