Hospital chaplains are called to some of the holiest work, entering rooms where grief and vulnerability are often palpable. Rev. Emma Landowski Sancomb shares her experiences with us - what it’s like entering those spaces, how she prepares her own heart, and how she tries to move out of the way so God’s wisdom can speak through her. She does the same in the journaling workshops she offers, which she says are all about allowing space for the Holy Wisdom of God to flow through us.

About Rev. Emma

Rev. Emma Landowski-Sancomb, BCC is ordained in the United Church of Christ and a Board Certified Chaplain that works at Columbia St. Mary’s Hospital in Mequon, WI. Emma is also certified in Holy Fire Reiki I.  Through Emma’s Ministry of Sacred Transition, journaling workshops are offered, alongside officiating weddings, creating ceremonies and rituals for all of life’s sacred transitions.  Emma's desire is to meet each individual where they are and to help them honor experiences of transition, celebration or grief.  Emma’s spirituality is shaped by the larger ecosystem and how we are called to be in community with each other. Outside of ministry and work, Emma can be found spending time with her family outside, gardening or hiking. 

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Patriarchy is neither nice nor particularly Christian, but it shows up in our churches all the time. Liz Cooledge Jenkins tackles this much-needed conversation about the more subtle ways patriarchy weaves its way into church culture and offers us a way forward in her new book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy.


About Liz

Liz Cooledge Jenkins (MDiv) is a writer, preacher, and former college campus minister who lives in the Seattle area with her husband Ken and their black cat Athena. Liz is passionate about building more just faith communities and a more just world. She has a BS in Symbolic Systems (Stanford University) and a Master of Divinity degree. Her writing has appeared in Sojourners, Christians for Social Action, Feminism and Religion, and Red Letter Christians, among other places. She can be found at lizcooledgejenkins.com and @lizcoolj and @postevangelicalprayers. When not writing, Liz enjoys swimming, hiking, attempting to grow vegetables, and drinking a lot of tea.


About the Book

Part memoir and part faith-based feminist manifesto, Nice Churchy Patriarchy takes an unflinching look at the ways misogyny’s subtler forms impact every aspect of women’s experiences in church. From leading a church college ministry, to attending seminary, to eventually developing the confidence to preach, Liz Cooledge Jenkins weaves together her own journey with reflections on biblical interpretation, church history, and intersectional feminism.


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In this brief episode, we lift our hearts together in prayer for the people in the Holy Land, and around the world, who are grieving and afraid. Pastor Kelsey reads two poems from Dane Kuttler’s book, The Book of Solace.

In her recent memoir, Beautiful and Terrible Things: Faith, Doubt, and Discovering A Way Back to Each Other, Rev. Dr. Amy Butler shares about finding her way through wreckage after wreckage. A deeply personal, yet incredibly universal memoir. She’s here with us today to share more of her story, talk about where God’s Spirit has been nudging her lately, and, of course, what she is still learning.

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About Amy
Pastor Amy believes deeply that courageous communities of people who live with tenacious love can change the world.  Much of her career has been spent helping build communities of radical witness in the institutional church. She is currently serving as Designated Pastor at the Community Church of Honolulu in Hawai’i.

Before that, Amy served for for five years as the seventh Senior Minister and first woman at the helm of The Riverside Church in the City of New York. She holds degrees from Baylor University, the International Baptist Theological Seminary, and Wesley Theological Seminary. Pastor Amy’s professional ministry career began as the director of a homeless shelter for women in New Orleans, Louisiana; she later became Associate Pastor of Membership and Mission at St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church in the city of New Orleans. In 2003, Butler was called to the position of Senior Minister of Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, D.C.’s Chinatown, where she was also the first woman to lead that historic congregation. 

Though leading institutions of faith in this moment can be one of the most challenging leadership tasks around, she is optimistic about the impact faith communities have on the world.

When she’s not busy leading, teaching, preaching or writing, Pastor Amy enjoys the beach (obviously), and hanging out with friends. She is an avid reader and loves to write, recently completing her first memoir, now published by Penguin Random House Books. Pastor Amy is mom to three amazing young adults who are each making their way in the world; they are her favorites. 

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This week we have the privilege of sitting down with award-winning national news anchor and host of “Morning in America,” Adrienne Bankert. In an hour-long special that aired on Sunday, September 24th, Adrienne went behind the scenes of the popular show, “The Chosen.” She toured the set, interviewed the cast as well as the creator, Dallas Jenkins. We get to hear from her first-hand what that experience was like and how she feels the show is changing the landscape of faith and media.

Watch The Chosen Phenomenon here and don't miss the extended interviews with the cast here!

About Adrienne
Adrienne Bankert is an award-winning national news anchor and host of “Morning in America” on NewsNation. Morning in America airs on NewsNation starting at 5am (CST). Learn how to watch at www.joinNN.com

In her career as a journalist, Adrienne has covered significant stories across her tenure as a journalist, including the 2016 and 2020 presidential campaigns, the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and the rescue of a youth soccer team trapped in a Thailand cave. She’s also interviewed some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, such as Viola Davis, Will Smith, and Dwayne Johnson.

We recorded a special episode with Kelsey and our sound editor, Bri Daniel, to celebrate 100,000 downloads!!! This is a huge milestone that we could barely dream of as we started out, and we’re so grateful to get to celebrate with you all! We talk some behind the scenes talk, whether or not this is different than we expected, what our hopes and dreams are for the future of the podcast, and even our favorite (and least favorite!) parts of doing the podcast.

Thank you all so much for listening. You are making our dreams come true! We love getting to do this for you every week, and we appreciate everything you do to support us.

About Bri
Bri was able to leave her home state and go to Northern Arizona University to persue her dream in film.  She received a Bachelor's degree in Electronic Media and Film with an emphasis in Production.

Her ultimate career goal is to become an editor for films. Along with being the editor of Lady Preacher Podcast she is also the editor for Reimagine Teaching and the co-host and editor Offscript.

Bri is a bookworm who in her free time loves watching movies, reading (sometimes she's reading 3 books at once if not more), playing video games, board games, hanging out with friends and family and trying to go on new adventures whenever possible.

Our Lifecoach:
In the episode, Bri and Kelsey share that they both have the same life coach that they meet with. Her name is Linda Baumgardner and she is truly the best! You can learn more about her at lindabaumgardner.com.

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Content Note: In this episode, we have open, honest, and vulnerable conversation around infertility, body dysmorphia, and cancer.

At the height of the pandemic, Rev. Erin Dickey was in the depths of an infertility journey. She and her husband ordered a Peloton and it arrived the same week they received hard news. Her journey with the stationary bike was far more than she ever expected, and became a source of community, grace, and strength. She’s on the podcast today to share what riding a Peloton and being part of the Peloton community has taught her about faith, belonging, and knowing you are never truly alone.

Sound Note:
Pastor Kelsey had baby Gabriel alongside her throughout the interview, so you may hear baby babbling in the background.

About Erin
Rev. Erin Dickey has served Riverside Avenue Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) as Senior Pastor since November of 2016. Erin’s favorite parts of ministry are church camp ministries, walking with families through end of life planning/funerals, and preaching. In her spare time she’s an avid Peloton enthusiast, baker, and obsessive dog mom. She lives in Jacksonville, FL with her husband, Justin, who she met counseling church camp, their three dogs, and their cat that thinks he’s a dog.

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I sat down with Victoria Robb Powers and Cameron Mason Vickery of Reverend Mamas to talk about their upcoming book, My Love, God Is Everywhere. This beautiful children’s book asks a series of questions about where God is, and they don’t shy away from the hard stuff, including: where is God when I’m bad? where is God when I die?

Victoria and Cameron are mothers, pastors and founders of the online community Reverend Mama’s. They built Reverend Mama’s as a platform to showcase inclusive faith-based resources tailored for parents and children. In their first children’s book, My Love, God Is Everywhere, Victoria and Cameron explore the concept of God’s presence and boundless love in a child's life. The story follows a child who poses a thought-provoking question, leading readers to uncover the timeless truth that God's love transcends all situations, whether it be moments of stillness, pandemonium, sorrow, joy or even mistakes.

Victoria Robb Powers is the Senior Pastor at Royal Lane Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, and is the first female to pastor a Baptist church in the DFW Metroplex. She is a graduate of Baylor University and Brite Divinity School at TCU in Fort Worth. Victoria lives with her husband and three children in Lake Highlands. She loves to read, write, preach and teach.

Cameron Mason Vickrey is a graduate of Furman University and Wake Forest University School of Divinity. She currently works for Fellowship Southwest, sharing stories of ministry and mission along the US--Mexico border and advocating for migrants. She is also passionate about public education, and co-founded a nonprofit called RootEd, galvanizing parents of public school children to tell their stories and become advocates. Cameron lives in San Antonio with her family.

All her life, Julia Rocchi has searched for both the stillness and community that would connect her with something real and powerful—something like God. But religion, often consumed by its certainties, sometimes fails us. We want to find a new way. Could it be that faith is instead a conversation we carry on in questions?

In her new book, Amen? Questions for A God I Hope Exists, Julia invites us into fruitful curiosity through prayer, poetry, and prose.

About Julia
Julia Rocchi writes prose, poetry, prayers, and a lot of thank-you notes. With an MA in
Writing from Johns Hopkins University, she has garnered multiple story publications and honors, including First Place in the Saturday Evening Post’s Great American Fiction Contest. Julia also works in nonprofit marketing, facilitates gatherings, and performs improv comedy. As an ENFJ, Enneagram 2, and Cancer sign, she’s never met a personality indicator she disagreed with. Julia lives with her family in Arlington, Virginia.

Visit juliarocchi.com to follow her on her blog or on social media.