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In this episode Ken Shuman speaks with Chris Jacobsen, a pastor of a congregation in Columbus, OH and a Faithwalking graduate who is also walking alongside members of his congregation and team as they engage in the Faithwalking process.
Chris shares that Faithwalking has impacted him in many ways - and perhaps most profoundly in his ministry. The Faithwalking process helped him become aware that he was leading with a lot of inauthenticity, saying and doing things that he thought were expected of him that were not true to who he was. He was able to discover his core values for himself and create guiding principles for his life that have changed the way he relates to others and the way he leads. He has also learned to recognize anxiety and shame when they descend and to get curious about what is going on in those moments of discomfort and how he would like to respond, which has led to transformation in himself and in his relationships.
Chris observes that the Faithwalking process has also given him the tools to navigate the high anxiety and division in the Church and in our world today with greater maturity. "There is a real tendency, especially when it comes to the Church, for folks to want to experience fusion of their beliefs with one another, and the feeling of, "Well, if you don't believe the same way I do on all these different things, then I can have no part of you and I can have no part of this church." Chris's desire is that members of his own congregation, other leaders, and people in our society at large will receive this gift of growing in emotional maturity and in their ability to engage with diversity in lifegiving ways, and that they will recognize that people who disagree with us "are not our enemies...they're just folks who - for one reason or another - have a different understanding, and that it doesn't make the other person a bad person, and it does not mean that they're someone we can't be in relationship with." Chris believes that Faithwalking has made him a more open-minded person with the tools to love others well - a tremendous gift.This episode was recorded in August 2025.
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In this episode Ken Shuman speaks with Chris Jacobsen, a pastor of a congregation in Columbus, OH and a Faithwalking graduate who is also walking alongside members of his congregation and team as they engage in the Faithwalking process.
Chris shares that Faithwalking has impacted him in many ways - and perhaps most profoundly in his ministry. The Faithwalking process helped him become aware that he was leading with a lot of inauthenticity, saying and doing things that he thought were expected of him that were not true to who he was. He was able to discover his core values for himself and create guiding principles for his life that have changed the way he relates to others and the way he leads. He has also learned to recognize anxiety and shame when they descend and to get curious about what is going on in those moments of discomfort and how he would like to respond, which has led to transformation in himself and in his relationships.
Chris observes that the Faithwalking process has also given him the tools to navigate the high anxiety and division in the Church and in our world today with greater maturity. "There is a real tendency, especially when it comes to the Church, for folks to want to experience fusion of their beliefs with one another, and the feeling of, "Well, if you don't believe the same way I do on all these different things, then I can have no part of you and I can have no part of this church." Chris's desire is that members of his own congregation, other leaders, and people in our society at large will receive this gift of growing in emotional maturity and in their ability to engage with diversity in lifegiving ways, and that they will recognize that people who disagree with us "are not our enemies...they're just folks who - for one reason or another - have a different understanding, and that it doesn't make the other person a bad person, and it does not mean that they're someone we can't be in relationship with." Chris believes that Faithwalking has made him a more open-minded person with the tools to love others well - a tremendous gift.This episode was recorded in August 2025.