Kelly Pollock, CEO of the Burgess Family Foundation, and Betsy Cohen, philanthropic futurist and founder of FutureGood, join R. Adam Smith for a wide-ranging conversation on strategic philanthropy, community impact, and the evolving role of family enterprise in shaping long-term social change. Drawing on decades of experience in nonprofit leadership, trust banking, and futurism, Kelly and Betsy explore how family foundations can deepen community relationships, navigate generational transitions, and move from transactional giving to sustained impact. The conversation also touches on AI's emerging role in the nonprofit sector, the diverging philanthropic priorities of G1 and G2, and what it means to be a builder — not just a buyer — in your community.

00:00 Welcome, Introductions & Guest Backgrounds
02:01 The Burgess Family Foundation: Mission and Structure
03:04 FutureGood: Philanthropic Futurism Explained
04:19 Kelly's Path from COCA to Family Foundation CEO
06:07 Betsy's Journey from Corporate Futurist to Philanthropic Advisor
08:10 Translating Family Passion into Strategic Philanthropic Investment
10:31 St. Louis Philanthropy: Depth of Community and Collaboration
12:11 Collaborative Funding Initiatives Across the Region
15:51 FutureProof: Bringing Nonprofits Together for Shared Planning
16:35 Next Gen Engagement Inside the Burgess Family Foundation
18:29 G1 vs. G2 Philanthropic Priorities and the Generational Shift
20:53 Scale of Family Office Philanthropy: Data and Trends
24:50 Unlocking Capital Beyond Grant Making
26:37 Innovation, Risk Capital, and Scenario Planning in Philanthropy
29:02 AI's Impact on Nonprofits and Family Foundations
31:09 Next Gen Leadership and Being a Student of the Work
35:07 Closing Reflections: Buyers vs. Builders

Philip Marcovici — international tax lawyer, author, and advisor to ultra-high-net-worth families — joins R. Adam Smith to explore what it takes for a family enterprise to endure across generations. Drawing on decades of advising families across Asia, Europe, and beyond, Philip challenges the assumption that culture determines planning outcomes, arguing that wealth's destructive potential is universal. The conversation spans governance structures, the role of advisors, next-generation stewardship, tax system reform, and the concept of regenerative wealth — connecting the internal health of a family enterprise to its obligations and impact in the wider world.

00:00 Welcome & Philip Marcovici Introduction
02:22 Career Background & Baker McKenzie Years
03:16 Culture, Governance & Global Family Patterns
05:31 Family Enterprise: Long-Term Vision Planning
08:30 Advisors, Education & Asking Better Questions
10:45 Governance Structures & Legal Frameworks
15:54 Using a Governance Entity Across Structures
16:50 Tax Systems, Non-Dom Reform & the UK Example
20:53 Corporate Tax, Family Wealth & Economic Impact
23:41 Regenerative Wealth & the Family Enterprise Role in Society
26:00 Internal vs. External Sustainability: Bridging the Silos
30:13 Tax, Branding & Wealth's Obligation to Society
32:58 Emotional Intelligence & Next-Gen Succession
37:19 Closing Reflections & Sign-Off

James Rosebush — Reagan White House veteran, author, and family office advisor — draws direct lines between presidential leadership and multigenerational stewardship. Having worked alongside Reagan as Chief of Staff to the First Lady, Rosebush witnessed firsthand how indifference to public opinion, deep spiritual conviction, and a relentless drive to understand "what is really going on" shaped one of history's most consequential presidencies. He translates those lessons into the realities of family enterprise: the complexity of working with difficult wealth creators, the emotional demands placed on advisors, and why integrity compounds over time just as capital does. 

Emily Balentine Barbour, Partner and Head of Client Engagement and Family Legacy at Balentine, shares her unique perspective as a third-generation member of an Atlanta-based wealth management firm. The conversation explores Balentine's journey from sale to major bank during the financial crisis back to independence in 2010, now managing $8.5 billion under advisement. Emily discusses the evolution of wealth management beyond investment performance to encompass family legacy planning, the importance of engaging spouses and next generations for retention, and how AI enhances client relationships. She emphasizes that modern family financial planning requires integrating values with financial strategy while maintaining independence from private equity pressures.

Jeremy Cheng, Principal at Lansberg Gersick Advisors, shares his approach to building learning capacity for enterprise families across Asia and beyond. Broadcasting from Hong Kong, Jeremy discusses the evolution of family business enterprise education, the importance of continuous curriculum development, and how families can embrace portfolio thinking for rising generations. He explores cultural differences between Eastern and Western approaches to family wealth office management, the role of emotional intelligence in mentorship programs, and why allowing the next generation to reinterpret legacy is essential for long-term continuity and individual freedom.

00:00 Introduction to Jeremy Cheng
 02:05 Journey into family enterprise advisory
 04:22 Evolution of learning systems
 05:07 Research and generational transitions
 07:00 Gaps in family enterprise education
 08:00 Curriculum development essentials
 10:15 Core competencies across generations
 12:30 Portfolio thinking in Asia markets
 14:45 Thailand and Philippines comparisons
 17:00 Rising generation venture development
 19:20 Owner versus governor role clarity
 22:31 Expectations and emotional intelligence
 23:15 Mentorship program implementation
 26:40 Governance and power dynamics
 27:10 Reinterpreting legacy for freedom
 29:02 Closing thoughts on continuity

David Werdiger returns to discuss his Power of Pause Institute and the concept of time as a critical leadership asset. Drawing from his experience as a second-generation family business enterprise member and decades advising high net worth families, David explores how family enterprise leaders can create clarity through intentional pause rather than constant urgency. The conversation covers stewardship principles learned from nonprofit boards, the importance of manufactured adversity in rising generation education, and navigating binary decisions like selling versus keeping family assets. David emphasizes that family wealth office governance thrives when leaders balance strategic clarity with relational awareness and treat time as their most valuable resource.

00:00 Introduction to David Werdiger
 01:57 Origins of the Power of Pause
 04:03 Second-generation business experience
 06:07 Time as a leadership resource
 08:00 Leadership styles and patience
 10:15 The pause practice framework
 12:30 Technology and intentional time
 14:45 Decision making under pressure
 16:52 Rising generation preparation
 20:29 Manufactured adversity concept
 22:45 Binary decisions in transitions
 24:49 Learning to be good owners
 26:33 Making every day intentional

Dr. Jan-Philipp Ahrens, leading scholar at the University of Mannheim, discusses his groundbreaking research at the intersection of family enterprise, artificial intelligence, and sustainability. As a fifth-generation family business successor, Jan brings personal insight to his academic work leading an interdisciplinary research group that combines data science with traditional business research. The conversation explores how family businesses navigate succession, governance, and digital transformation while maintaining their unique values. Jan introduces his intelligent entity view theory, examining how family wealth office structures and organizational memory influence innovation and sustainability outcomes in an evolving global economy.

 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Jan-Philipp Ahrens
 02:00 The interdisciplinary research group
 03:30 Research focus on sustainability and AI
 05:00 Fifth-generation family business experience
 08:00 Personal journey through crisis management
 12:00 Academic research methodology approach
 15:30 Big data and AI in business research
 18:00 Sustainability challenges for firms
 21:00 Family office management and governance structures
 24:00 Innovation and digital transformation
 27:30 Female leadership and board diversity
 30:00 The intelligent entity view theory
 34:00 Organizational memory and routines
 36:00 Future of AI integration in firms

 Suzanne Gyorgy, Partner at Emigrant Bank Fine Art Finance, shares her expertise on the intersection of art and wealth management. With over 35 years of experience advising collectors and institutions, Suzanne explores how family wealth office strategies incorporate art as an asset class. The conversation covers art finance fundamentals, leveraging collections for liquidity without selling, and the evolution of collecting across generations. Suzanne discusses family estate planning considerations for collectors, the growing presence of women in the market, and how Emigrant's integrated approach combines advisory, appraisals, and financing services to support families worldwide. 

 00:00 Introduction to Suzanne Gyorgy
 02:09 Core services at Emigrant Fine Art Finance
 04:21 Working with family office management structures
 06:19 Evolution of art finance and lending
 07:37 Leveraging collections for family financial planning
 09:53 Art as collateral and succession considerations
 13:04 Regulatory landscape and appraisal standards
 16:07 Women collectors shaping the market
 19:13 Digital transformation in art acquisition
 23:20 Viewing art online versus in person
 25:16 Next generation collectors and trends
 27:47 Liquidity management for family estate planning
 28:50 New artists and accessible price points
 30:32 Final thoughts on collecting and wealth
 31:35 Closing remarks 

John Koeppel, partner at Lippes Mathias LLP and leader of their private equity and independent sponsor practice, joins host R. Adam Smith to explore how independent sponsors are transforming direct deal making. With over 250 transactions closed, Koeppel shares insights on why family investment office structures are increasingly backing fundless sponsors, the strategic advantages of flexible deal structuring, and the critical dynamics between sellers, sponsors, and capital partners. The conversation covers QSBS tax benefits, succession planning for family enterprise transitions, and the essential mentorship role legal advisors play in navigating complex lower middle market transactions.
 00:00 - Welcome and introductions
 02:17 - John's practice and client base
 04:41 - Flexibility in deal structuring
 06:09 - Direct deal making expansion
 08:54 - Operating expertise and value
 10:20 - Deal sourcing strategies
 12:53 - Structure and economics
 14:40 - GP commitment expectations
 16:56 - Post-closing governance
 18:59 - Deal timelines
 20:42 - Seller rollover equity
 22:29 - Exit considerations
 24:35 - Common challenges
 27:18 - Industry activity levels
 29:27 - Seller relationship importance
 31:00 - Three-party dynamics
 33:22 - Mentorship and persistence
 35:35 - Final thoughts and closing

Henry Brandts-Giesen, global co-chair of Dentons' high net worth group, explores the rapid evolution of private wealth in Asia and the professionalization of family office services. The conversation examines Singapore's emergence as a global wealth hub, the complexities of intergenerational transitions, and the critical role of governance in sustainable family wealth management. Brandts-Giesen shares insights on moving from founder-directed models to democratized decision-making structures, emphasizing the importance of human capital alongside financial capital. The discussion addresses philanthropy, social license, and how technology enables more sophisticated family enterprise operations across borders.

00:00 - Introduction to Henry Brandts-Giesen and Dentons
02:16 - Asia's wealth transformation and Singapore's rise as a hub
05:38 - Generational transitions and family office management evolution
09:12 - Professionalizing family wealth and governance systems
12:46 - Redefining next generation succession planning
15:41 - Family capital beyond financial metrics
18:00 - Fundamental questions of governance and decision-making
21:28 - Philanthropy, impact, and social license for family wealth office structures
23:53 - Technology and the future of family business enterprise
26:19 - The human element in wealth advisory
28:00 - Closing remarks