<p>In this episode, Myranda and Mackenzie interview Ira Shai, MA, LPCC and Carolyn Oullette, MA, LPCC about parenting and why we DON'T want to be perfect as parents!</p>

In this episode, Myranda and Mackenzie interview Ira Shai, MA, LPCC and Carolyn Oullette, MA, LPCC about parenting and why we DON'T want to be perfect as parents!

Family Therapy and Parenting

“Just don’t eff them up” is a podcast hosted by two moms who are also therapists but not your therapist. At work we hear about people’s childhood trauma(s). At home, we’re working our damndest to reduce the amount we eff our kids up. It’s inevitable that our kids are going to experience hard stuff but how we support them through it is the most important. That’s why we started this podcast. Join us on this journey as we interview experts in the medical field, discuss the pros and cons of different parenting techniques, interview parents with unique experiences and discuss the hard topics.

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