There's a party at the Medici palace and the gang wasn't invited!

Plus, Lisa discovers Piero is the head of the cult they have been up against all season, Mac is briefly kidnapped, and we finally meet a Charioteer from Lorenzo's infamous Charioteers Monthly.

Joining us today to discuss all this and more is comedian and editor Avril (@aviie1296)

Together we talk about the best way to reveal a villain, whether we’d tell each other if we discovered one of our parents was in a cult, and the true meaning of Teenage Renaissance Batman.

(Originally recorded in 2025 – that’s right, the podcast hasfinally caught up to this year!)

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Leonardo and the Camera Obscura

DIY Camera Obscura IRL !

Leonardo's study of feet

Leonardo studying frogs

Mummy issues! Fake marriage! Love triangles! There's lot to unpack in this episode when Lisa’s mother arrives in Florence to take Lisa home and force her into marriage.

Zoé (⁠@punk_kinsoup⁠) joins the podcast to help unravel the complications that follow. Together we talk family, gender roles and games where you have a hoop and a stick.

Originally recorded in 2023

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Leonardo and the stars

Leonardo Da Vinci + "Earth shine"

Ring and hoop (hoop rolling)

Spinning top

Florence’s annual art contest is here, and Leonardo and Lisa are competing against Michelangelo. With oil-based sabotages and schemes of stolen identity, who will triumph?

This week we discuss Michelangelo and Leonardo’s rivalry, whether the Duke can truly love democracy as a reigning monarch, and how this should have been a Lisa episode.

Joining us today is art historian Meg who has some surprising truths to reveal about the real-life paintings used in his episode.

(Originally recorded in 2023)

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History of the music box

Art featured this episode:      Baptism of Christ – Verrocchio and Leonardo

Mona Lisa

San Francesco al Prato Resurrection - Pietro Perugino

Battle of Anghiari (Leonardo's painting irl, Michelangelo's painting in the show)

The time travel episode is here! Or is it....? 

Morgues, corpses, and absentee parents abound in this episode centred around a watch which may (or may not) be the key to time travel.

Dervla and Anna are joined by writer, bookseller and historian Hannah (@hannahsrwriter) and together they discuss bodies, daddy issues, and the fantastical.

(Originally recorded in 2022)

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Our Recs:

📚 Stiff by Mary Roach

Sources:

History of the pocket watch

Leonardo’s alarm clock / water clock

Leonardo and anatomical studies

Skull used in Hamlet

The time travel episode! It's here! Or is it....?

Dervla and Anna are joined by writer, bookseller and historian Hannah and together we discuss what would

We know him as Piero de Medici, villainous secret society leader and devoted father, but you may also know him as an impressionist, comic, actor and pianist.

Alistair McGowan is here with us to discuss everything you’d ever wanted to know about Piero, from what it was like playing the villain and the experience of filming Leonardo in South Africa.

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Please note that this interview was originally recorded in 2022. Since then, Tom Wilkinson, one of the actors who Alistair mentions as being an inspiration for Piero, has sadly passed away. We’re so grateful for Tom's inspiration on this show we love.

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Alistair McGowan

Listen and buy Alistair's amazing piano album ⁠here⁠

Alistair's website

Alistair's book

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Mysterious, ancient boxes that shoot CGI lightning, manipulative Scottish friendly-enemies, and the tragic execution of a watermelon, this episode has it all.

Join Dervla and Anna as they delve into the complexities of Mac's relationship with his Scottish frenemy, the power of friendship, and discuss whether or not a lightning box can actually exist.

(Originally recorded in 2022)

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Ezra Furman's album! (released in 2022...when this episode was originally recorded)

Sources:

Leonardo⁠ and his interest in light and shadow

Tesla Coil (real life lightning box? Also NOT a toy)

Leonardo does Twelfth Night (sort of) when Lorenzo's mean cousin comes to town and in typical kids show fashion Leonardo falls immediately in love.

This episode may not be CBBC Leonardo's strongest but it allows us to talk about the depiction of gender, teen-romance and how love is portrayed in these kind of plots.

Plus, pay close attention and you may be able to work out who is the super secret special guest from the show we interviewed. (All will be revealed soon)

(Originally recorded in 2022)

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Our Recs:

No recs this week but we wish your dog food to be free of maggots.

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Leonardo and the periscope

Slashing (Clothing)

Houppelande (and more on medieval costumes and clothing) - Medieval Clothing and Costumes : Displaying Wealth and Class in Medieval Times by Margaret Scott

Something Wicked this way comes in the form of a villain from Mac's past who burned down his village and has come to Florence to force a girl into marriage.

Don't worry, Leonardo and the gang have the perfect plan to stop it! It involves a museum heist, fake paintings, a money laundering front and also Scottish alchemists?

Joining us this week to discuss heists, sad backstories and turning lead into gold is writer, swimmer, and dog trainer Alice. (@ruskagram)

(Originally recorded in 2022)

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Our Recs:

Have a well deserved rest/nap this week

Sources:

Learn about the history of alchemy

This week we cover what is arguably the most iconic episode as Leonardo (Jonathan Bailey) flies over CGI Florence while Song 2 by Blur plays in the background.

In this episode we are joined by writer, dramaturg and bird of prey trainer Deanie (@seedeanwrite) as we talk falcons, father figures and flying. Plus we explore the real Leonardo Da Vinci's fascination with birds.

(Originally recorded in 2022)

Episode summary: Leonardo has invented a pair of wings but needs to study a bird in order to perfect the design. He gets Lorenzo to steal a falcon from Piero but the falcon and the wings catch the attention of the villain of the week who wants to harness the power of flight and take over the world (apparently).

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Our Recs:

Merlin the bird app

Sources:

Leonardo's infamous wings

Leonardo the animal rights activist: