Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader aren't just iconic characters — they're a window into some of the most difficult questions fathers and sons face. Heath and Luke discuss what we owe our parents when they let us down, the transforming power of a child's forgiveness, and why, like Vader, we may not deserve the love we receive, but we get it anyway.

Odysseus was gone for twenty years — ten fighting in Troy, ten trying to get home — and his son Telemachus grew up without him. Heath and Luke unpack what that absence costs a family, what it takes to come home well, and whether a son can ever truly know his father. It's a three-thousand-year-old story that turns out to have a lot to say about modern fatherhood.