The wisdom and extraordinary life learnings of acclaimed author Fatima Bhutto. Fatima's family have been deeply entwined with Pakistan since its inception - and that’s brought untold pain in the form of multiple political assassinations of her closest relatives.

But Fatima tells Tim Samuels how she’s turned tragedy into resilience - and how we can all build up our reserves. They also talk religion, radicalism and the importance of not being defined by our pasts.

Brilliant Brains is a deep, deep - no holds - dive into the minds of some of the most fascinating thinkers out there.

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Music by Natureboy - remixed by Mudd.

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