The fourth episode in a 12-part series “Black, White, and Red All Over: A Podcast Series about the Bible.”

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John, Ellyn, and Tiffany are joined by special guest Ethan McVay as they review what they took away from the Bible books Numbers, Deuteronomy, and Joshua. They also wrestle with one of the most controversial things in the Bible, and attempt to answer the question, “What Do We Do with All the Violence in the Bible?” They also answer listener questions! 

Intro and Fun Banter - 0:00

Tiffany’s thoughts on the violence in the Bible - 10:10

Ellyn’s thoughts on the violence in the Bible - 13:23

Ethan’s thoughts on the violence in the Bible - 15:40

John’s thoughts on the violence in the Bible - 18:18

Tiffany’s additional insights on Numbers, Deuteronomy, & Joshua - 27:50

Ellyn’s additional insights on Numbers, Deuteronomy, & Joshua - 31:10

Ethan’s additional insights on Numbers, Deuteronomy, & Joshua - 34:22

A funny moment in Bible - 40:27

Listener Questions - 43:00

Final Thoughts - 45:42

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Bible Project: Making Sense of Divine Violence

Bible Project: Judgment or Cruelty? Conquering the Promised Land

Bible Project: Why Did God Command the Invasion of Canaan in the Book of Joshua?

Ancient Example: Egyptian tablet claiming the destruction of Israel

Ancient Example: Moabite tablet describing their defeat of Israel and killing Israelite men, women, and children in devotion to the Moabite god

Seedbed: 7 Keys to Understanding Old Testament Violence

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The Bible Recap Reading Plan on the Bible App

Bible Recap Resources to help get you started in reading through the Bible

The Bible Recap Links

The Bible Project

The third episode in a 12-part series “Black, White, and Red All Over: A Podcast Series about the Bible.”

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John, Ellyn, and Tiffany talk about their favorite podcasts, review what they learned reading the books of Exodus and Leviticus, and discuss the answer to the question, “What Do We Do with All the Old Testament Laws?” They also answer listener questions! 

Intro and Fun Banter - 0:00

Tiffany’s highlights on Exodus and Leviticus - 6:38

Ellyn’s highlights on Exodus and Leviticus - 18:06

John’s highlights on Exodus and Leviticus - 26:21

What Do We Do with All the Old Testament Laws? - 43:52

Listener Questions - 52:58

Final Thoughts - 57:01

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Tim Keller on “Old Testament Laws and The Charge of Inconsistency”

J.D. Greear on “Why Don’t We Follow All of the Old Testament Laws?”

Bible Project “Spiritual Beings” Series

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The Bible Recap Reading Plan on the Bible App

Bible Recap Resources to help get you started in reading through the Bible

The Bible Recap Links

The Bible Project

The Bible Project App

Check out All our Other Episodes on our Podcast & Keep an Eye Out for Episode 3 of Season 4 on or around April 1st!

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Special Thanks to Ellyn Christian and Patrick Chester!

Visit us online at www.fbchsv.org/youngadults and check out our sermons and services at www.fbchsv.org/sermons, and watch our 30min TV Program tvchurch.online

The second episode in a 12-part series “Black, White, and Red All Over: A Podcast Series about the Bible.”

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John, Ellyn, and Tiffany talk about their favorite podcasts, review what they learned reading the books of Genesis and Job, and discuss the answer to the question, “How Do You Wait on God?” They also answer listener questions! 

Intro and Fun Banter - 0:00

Episode Rundown - 11:25

Tiffany’s highlights on Genesis and Job - 13:02

Ellyn’s highlights on Genesis and Job  - 15:55

How Do We Wait on God? - 20:28

John’s highlights on Genesis and Job  - 29:24

Listener Questions - 42:01

Final Thoughts - 47:35

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Tiffany’s Podcast Recommendations - Anatomy of Murder

Ellyn’s Podcast Recommendations - Gravy & How I Built This

John’s Podcast Recommendations - The Bible Project & Revisionist History

Book Recommendation by John - It’s Not Your Turn by Heather Thompson Day

Podcast Episode Recommendation by John - Trees of Testing and Blessing by the Bible Project

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The Bible Recap Reading Plan on the Bible App

Bible Recap Resources to help get you started in reading through the Bible

The Bible Recap Links

The Bible Project

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Check out All our...

The first episode in a 12-part series “Black, White, and Red All Over: A Podcast Series about the Bible.”

John introduces our two co-hosts, Ellyn Christian and Tiffany Fanning. Together, they talk about their experiences in reading the Bible through, and share their tips and insights for those who wish to do the same.

Intro - 0:00

Tiffany’s Insights and Tips - 16:00

Ellyn’s Insights and Tips - 22:53

John’s Insights and Tips - 36:58

Final Thoughts - 46:56

Join them in reading through the Bible this year! Find resources to help get you started below.

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The Bible Recap Reading Plan on the Bible App

Bible Recap Resources to help get you started in reading through the Bible

The Bible Recap Links

The Bible Project

The Bible Project App

Scary Mary YouTube Trailer

Check out All our Other Episodes on our Podcast & Keep an Eye Out for Episode 2 of Season 3 on or around February 1st!

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Special Thanks to Ellyn Christian and Patrick Chester!

Visit us online at www.fbchsv.org/youngadults and check out our sermons and services at www.fbchsv.org/sermons, and watch our 30min TV Program tvchurch.online

The fourth episode in a 4-part series “Holy Heresies: A Podcast About the Things We Believe Which We Shouldn’t Believe.”

We’re Walking Through the Book “Counterfeit Christianity” by Roger Olson 

https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Christianity-Persistence-Errors-Church/dp/1426772297

Weeks 1-4

1. Intro to the Series, and Gnosticism
2. Trinity & Doctrine of the Trinity
3. Montanism and Marcionism - What do we do with the Bible?
4. Moralistic Therapeutic Deism – Reducing God

Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess. (Deuteronomy 5:33)

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Why Do This Study?

“Heresy” within Christianity isn’t limited to the pages and annuls of history. Rather, Heresies exist in various forms and haven’t lost any of their potency to corrupt our right, Christ-honoring understanding, faith, or worship. Just as we can use scripture wrong, we can carry incorrect belief, often without knowing. We will discuss a few heresies and how each of these have clung on through time and in which ways they may have latched onto our lives. 

 Moralistic Therapeutic Deism (Be Good Feel Good Religion)

MTD as described by Dr Olson in his book is characterized by 5 Broad Tenants: 

(1) the belief in a god who exists and created the world and watches over life on earth, 

(2) the belief that God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other as taught by the bible, … and various other world religions, 

(3) believing the central goal in life is to be happy and feel good about oneself/live a “good” life 

(4) God all that involved in my personal life except for the times when you need God to resolve a problem, 

and 

(5) the belief that if you’re a “good person” in life, you get to go to heaven when you die.

The Enlightenment view on Deism: 

1. Belief in a supreme deity
2. The deity ought to be worshiped
3. Virtue combined with piety is the chief part of worship
4. People should repent of their sins
5. Reward and punishment follow from

According to the cultural research center, 74% of Americans lean on some variation of agreement/practice with Deism and/or lean on it for life guidance. These people side with the “version of Christianity” which emphasized self, emotion, being good, rather than on God or Objective truth. 

• Of these 74% Americans, 95% don’t consider success in life as consistent with obedience to God
• 91% don’t believe that people are born into sin and need to be saved by Jesus Christ
• 88% percent get their “Truth” information or moral guidance from places other than the Bible
• 76% contend that people can earn a place in heaven based on being “good”
• 75% of these people don’t believe God is at all the basis for truth
• And 71% don’t believe the bible is true or reliable. 
• An Astounding 74% believe in Karma, which is in no way Christian!

Dr Olson Gives some Antidotes to These Heresies

Number 1: [Quote] “Christians need to recover a sense of the counterculture nature of the Gospel. The Gospel is an offense to common sense and a scandal to ordinary reason,” but it doesn’t have to be an opponent to reason, just...

The Third episode in a 4-part series, “Holy Heresies: A Podcast About the Things We Believe Which We Shouldn’t Believe.”

We’re Walking Through the Book “Counterfeit Christianity” by Roger Olson

https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Christianity-Persistence-Errors-Church/dp/1426772297

Weeks 1-4

1. Intro to the Series, and Gnosticism

2. Trinity & Doctrine of the Trinity

3. Montanism and Marcionism - What do we do with the Bible?

4. Moralistic Therapeutic Deism – Reducing God

 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess. (Deuteronomy 5:33)

“Not even the least of the divine and holy mysteries of the faith ought to be handed down without the divine Scriptures. Do not simply give faith to me speaking these things to you except you have the proof of what I say from the divine Scriptures. For the security and preservation of our faith are not supported by ingenuity of speech, but by the proofs of the divine Scriptures...” - Cyril of Jerusalem

Episode Summary/For Further Exploration

Why Do This Study?

“Heresy” within Christianity isn’t limited to the pages and annuls of history. Rather, Heresies exist in various forms and haven’t lost any of their potency to corrupt our right, Christ-honoring understanding, faith, or worship. Just as we can use scripture wrong, we can carry incorrect belief, often without knowing. We will discuss a few heresies and how each of these have clung on through time and in which ways they may have latched onto our lives.

What is “Revelation?” Very Simply, the term “revelation” means the revealing, uncovering, or disclosure of something. Theologians divide revelation into “General” and “Specific” Revelation

What is the Bible? (From Bible Project) https://youtu.be/ak06MSETeo4

Antidotes to Heresies of Biblical Interpretation

Antidote for Montanism, if someone declares to have a “new,” revelation does it answer “yes” to any of the following:

1. Does the prophecy promote the prophet over Christ?

2. Is the message inconsistent with the writings of the Apostles?

3. Does it promote schism/separation over unity?

4. Does it require a sacrifice of your intellect to accept a new idea?

5. Does it exalt anything other than Jesus into the role of messiah/leader/savior?

Antidote for Marcionism: Revere all scripture, Read AND study of ALL Scripture from start to end (not necessarily in one sitting or in order).

Final Thoughts:

Check your practices, check your heart, and trust the history and traditions of the church as it relates to having “right” faith. Be willing to think hard and long over your beliefs, and test everything in a community of Christ-centered, Bible honoring, Christians. Learn these heresies so you know what is right and wrong, to remove obstacles from your own faith, and pursue Christ faithfully without...

The second episode in a 4-part series “Holy Heresies: A Podcast About the Things We Believe Which We Shouldn’t Believe.”

We’re Walking Through the Book “Counterfeit Christianity” by Roger Olson 

https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Christianity-Persistence-Errors-Church/dp/1426772297

Weeks 1-4

1. Intro to the Series, and Gnosticism
2. Trinity & Doctrine of the Trinity
3. Montanism and Marcionism - What do we do with the Bible?
4. Moralistic Therapeutic Deism – Reducing God

Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess. (Deuteronomy 5:33)

“For it is known with complete certainty from the scriptures and is thus to be devoutly believed and the mind’s eye can also achieve a faint but undoubted glimpse of the truth that the father is, and the son is, and the Holy Spirit is, and that the son is not the same as the father is, nor is the Holy Spirit the same as the Father or the Son.

So human inadequacy searched for a word to express three what, and it said substances or persons. By these names it did not wish to give any idea of diversity, but it wished to avoid any idea of singleness; so that as well as understanding unity in God, whereby there is said to be one being, we might also understand trinity, whereby there are also said to be three substances or persons.”

-  St. Augustine, “The Trinity”

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Why Do This Study?

“Heresy” within Christianity isn’t limited to the pages and annuls of history. Rather, Heresies exist in various forms and haven’t lost any of their potency to corrupt our right, Christ-honoring understanding, faith, or worship. Just as we can use scripture wrong, we can carry incorrect belief, often without knowing. We will discuss a few heresies and how each of these have clung on through time and in which ways they may have latched onto our lives. 

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28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all c; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”. 

(John 10:28-30)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. (John 1:1-5)

22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” (Luke 3:22)

3 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. (Acts 2:33)

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