Having spent the past 10+ years of my professional life coaching women to fertility success, I’ve learned some things. This week I am breaking down the absolute WORST strategy for fertilty success there is. Interestingly enough, it isn’t fear, negativity, or even doubt. Almost everything is better than this sh*t! Come on an adventure with […]

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When fertility numbers don’t look “good,” most women are taught to stop trusting themselves. Lab values become destiny. Diagnoses become identities. And fear quietly takes the driver’s seat.

In this episode of the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast, Rosanne Austin shares the extraordinary story of Caroline, a woman who was told she would never get pregnant on her own—after being diagnosed with 36.9 FSH, 0.07 AMH, and labeled perimenopausal at 33, following recurrent miscarriage. According to conventional fertility logic, Caroline’s journey should have ended there.

But it didn’t.

Instead of surrendering her authority to statistics, Caroline chose something radically different: she listened to the quiet inner voice that said, “My body can do this.” What followed was not blind optimism or magical thinking—but deep, disciplined mindset work, emotional excavation, boundary setting, grief integration, and a conscious refusal to let fear define her future.

In this conversation, Caroline shares how she navigated loss, grief, and devastating diagnoses—while rebuilding trust in her body, reclaiming joy, strengthening her relationship, and continuing to live her life instead of putting it on hold. You’ll hear how mindset work supported her through multiple miscarriages, helped her resist collapsing into victimhood, and ultimately supported her in conceiving naturally and staying pregnant.

If you’ve been told your numbers are “too bad,” that time is running out, or that your body has failed you—this episode is your reminder that statistics are not prophecy, diagnoses are not destiny, and your authority matters.

Turn this one up if you’re tired of being ruled by fear, lab values, and other people’s certainty—and ready to remember what’s still possible.

Want to learn what I taught Caroline? Apply for an interview to be part of the Fearlessly Fertile AWESOMENESS that women around the world are buzzing about: https://get.frommaybetobaby.com/strategy

Transcript:

[00:00:00] Rosanne Austin: Hey, gorgeous. If you want success on your fertility journey, you’ve gotta have the mindset for it. It’s time to kick fear, negativity, doubt, shame, jealousy in the whole clown car of low vibe, fertility, journey BS to the curb. I’m your host, Roseanne Austin. Fertility Mindset Master, former prosecutor and recovering type a control freak, perfectionist.

[00:00:20] I use the power of minds. That to get pregnant naturally and have my baby boy at 43. Despite years of fertility treatment failure, I help women across the globe beat the odds on their fertility journey just like I did. Get ready for a quick hit of confidence, joy, feminine, bad assery, and loads of hell.

[00:00:37] Yes. For your fertility journey, it’s time to get fearless, baby fearlessly fertile. Let’s do this.

[00:00:44] Caroline: Welcome to the

[00:00:46] Rosanne Austin: Fearlessly Fertile Podcast, episode 278, pregnant naturally despite a 36.9 FSH 0.07 MH and recurrent miscarriage. Caroline’s story [00:01:00] loves. I am so excited to be here with you this week as we do a deep dive into yet another testimony of triumph from another one of my miracle mamas.

[00:01:10] I love these women so much because they find a way. These women are all about moving beyond numbers, statistics, cants, won’ts, and all that other garbage that tends to distract us on this journey. And on a journey where statistics and numbers, age, diagnosis, all this stuff becomes an obsession. I think it is such an incredible gift and it’s so kind and generous of each and every one of these Miracle Mamas to share with you how they overcame.

[00:01:39] And as you heard in the introduction, the numbers and stats that Caroline was facing were crazy. She was even told that there would be no way for her to get pregnant on her own. So I want you to turn this one up if you are struggling with numbers, diagnosis, and all that other crap, because Caroline is gonna show you that when [00:02:00] a woman makes a decision to be successful, she absolutely can.

[00:02:04] Here is my conversation with the amazing, inspiring, and delightful. Mama. Caroline.

[00:02:11] Caroline: Caroline, Roseanne.

[00:02:15] Rosanne Austin: Okay, woman. I gotta ask the question. I always love to ask because it just, it just hits me in the heart in the best possible way. Okay. You ready? Mm-hmm. Can you believe we’re having this conversation?

[00:02:30] Caroline: Uh, I can’t, I also, it’s, it’s hard to even like describe the joy that I feel right now.

[00:02:37] Um, thinking back to the person I was, you know, when I came to you in desperation and, uh, and just to be here and to know that this is my episode and, and I get to give back to the women who are listening because I was such an avid listener of the podcast and so grateful to the women who. You know, gave their stories before me because I [00:03:00] really clutched them kind of like a lifeline.

[00:03:02] And to be here and to be able to give that back means a lot to me.

[00:03:05] Rosanne Austin: Yeah. It’s, I’m just so delighted that you’re here. I mean, it’s, it is humbling for me as the person that’s putting out these conversations, like to watch. So many of you do that, and to go from being a listener to a guest is like cuckoo birds.

[00:03:24] It’s so good. It’s so good. So why don’t we start off with how did you find yourself on this journey and how did we meet?

[00:03:36] Caroline: So we met because, and I can give background of like, you know, starting the journey and, and how that all came to be. But we met because I was really struggling to get pregnant. Um, I had already had a miscarriage and it had probably been a year and a half.

[00:03:54] And it, you know, hadn’t gotten pregnant again. Um, and I started reaching out to the [00:04:00] women in my life and telling people that I was struggling with fertility. And that, I think at the time that felt brave because not a lot of women will share that they’re struggling. Um, thankfully I didn’t have a ton of shame.

[00:04:17] No shame on women, you know, that feel whatever they feel. But I just was looking for resources and a good friend of mine said that her cousin had gone through fertility struggles and she had done your coaching program. So I actually found it through a referral of the coaching program rather than finding your podcast first.

[00:04:37] So once I heard about you and that it had been successful for her, that was when I started listening to the podcast and kind of signed up immediately because I think it was like one episode of hearing your voice and positivity. Um, and I was like, okay, this is for me. This is what I need.

[00:04:54] Rosanne Austin: Wow, that’s incredible.

[00:04:56] Like it, it’s so funny because when I started this podcast, I’m like, I don’t know [00:05:00] who’s gonna be listening, right? Like, who is gonna listen to a former prosecutor talk about this topic? But it never ceases to amaze me how like the reach and the impact is crazy. So, okay. Well I would love it, like, because here’s the thing.

[00:05:16] That is a wonderful recitation of what happened, but like, what made you curious about this mindset piece? Because if you were, if you had had a miscarriage and you were struggling to conceive, what was it within you that made you wanna look at this mindset piece? Because most people wouldn’t, Carolyn.

[00:05:37] Like, most people just wouldn’t, they wanna go to a doctor, which is great. Like it’s so, it’s wonderful. Um, but most people wouldn’t look at that step. I’m super curious about what made you interested in that piece.

[00:05:51] Caroline: Mm-hmm. I think it was twofold. One of feeling like I was at. What I thought at the time was my rock bottom [00:06:00] and was just feeling so desperate for help.

[00:06:04] Um, and so desperate for different kind of help. I had gone to a fertility clinic, um, probably like eight months after the miscarriage when nothing else had happened. Um, and the fertility clinic had told me. I, I wrote my numbers down ’cause that was always helpful for me. But the fertility clinic, you know, they ran my numbers.

[00:06:26] My A MH was 0.07, which is so incredibly low, which meant low ovarian reserve right off the bat. My FSH was 36.9 and my TSH was 4.75. So the fertility doctor immediately diagnosed me with low ovarian reserve and said that I was perimenopausal and I was 33 at the time, and it just felt like this diagnosis was [00:07:00] the end of my world.

[00:07:02] And she said, you will never get pregnant on your own. And I looked at her and was like, but I, I have been pregnant. I’ve had a miscarriage. And she said, well, that was a miracle. That’ll never happen again. And it was just devastating to me because there it was, it was such a like foregone conclusion in her mind that this would never happen.

[00:07:26] And I believed it because I’d been taught forever that you believe the white coats and doctors know best and all of those things. And um, I know there are good doctors out there. I’m now suspicious of. Fertility doctors, ’cause that’s a business. But I also, it just, it destroyed me. And yet there was also this voice inside me that was saying, I’ve been pregnant.

[00:07:53] My body can do this. I don’t, I don’t really believe this diagnosis, it doesn’t [00:08:00] feel like it fits me. And so that was when I, I did start reaching out to people and kind of seeing what they had been through, had anybody been given a diagnosis like this, what had people found? And then that was when, you know, I, through my friend, I had kind of listened to you and it was your kind of, you know, you saying mindset is such a piece and there’s more that you can do and believing in yourself.

[00:08:26] It really struck me because I’m a psychotherapist. I, I give therapy for a living. Um, so of course I believe that there’s a mind body connection. I, I work with it every day of my life with my clients. But I think what I realized I needed was kind of to be, I guess, humbled in a way of like. I needed, I needed to some, someone to kind of like come pull me out of the mud.

[00:08:55] And that was what it seemed like you did for people is like, let me come pull [00:09:00] you out of the mud of the negativity that you’ve been facing and let me help you get to a better place. And that just seemed like exactly what I needed,

[00:09:09] Rosanne Austin: you know? That’s incredible, Caroline, because the, your self-awareness. And the willingness to say, okay, somebody in authority with a white coat on is telling me that this is never gonna happen for me, but I can hear my own wisdom saying that doesn’t fit.

[00:09:35] Do you realize what it took for you to even go in that direction? Like most people hear that shit and they’re tap out. I’m done. Right. Like you and I, I just love this about you because in that clutch moment you had a choice. You could either claim your own authority even if it made no fucking sense based on those numbers.

[00:09:57] Right? Point zero seven amh, what was your [00:10:00] FSH 36 or

[00:10:01] Caroline: 136.9.

[00:10:03] Rosanne Austin: 36.9 girl like you could have easily like, and, and the word perimenopausal will send an entire room scurrying. Hmm. Right. But there was something in you that said no. Like, what was it like trusting that at the time? I mean, I know we’re, you know, we’re heading in a direction and I know we’re gonna talk about the good shit that happened, but like, what was it like at that time to feel that conflict and say, no, I’m gonna choose me.

[00:10:38] Caroline: Well, you know, that voice was small. I’m not gonna lie. I wish I could say that that was, that was the predominant voice in my head. It wasn’t that voice was small and it helped that I, he was my boyfriend at the time, now, my husband. But it helped that my boyfriend listened to that as well and lifted that up in me, [00:11:00] you know, and said, look, even though the fertility doctor is saying you don’t have time.

[00:11:06] What if you took time to listen to that voice, like, I’m okay. Waiting. We are okay. Waiting. You know, and, and that gave me a lot of strength. I think being on the same page as, as he was and him trusting that, again, small voice in me that was saying, I can do this. Um. I think also with your program, it’s, it’s not a ton of time.

[00:11:29] You know, it’s a couple months and I, I really, I think that was another gift to give myself was like, well, why not try this first? You know, why not try something first? Because so much power to women going the medical route. I’m all about it. I was always, I always knew that could be an option for us eventually, hopefully, but.

[00:11:52] It also felt like if there’s another way that feels better to me, why not try that first? And so that was where it was like, [00:12:00] okay, I’m gonna give the coaching a try. I’m gonna give the mindset work a try. And, and again, like knowing that there’s a mind body connection that I was clearly struggling with because of the diagnosis, because of the grief of the miscarriage, because it was quote, taking long in my mind.

[00:12:17] Um. Yeah, I mean, it was small, but it was there and it was giving myself time to listen to that voice.

[00:12:24] Rosanne Austin: Wow. Does your man have like 75 brothers? Like I’m sure there are women listening to this that are like, where do I get one like that?

[00:12:32] Caroline: I did

[00:12:32] Rosanne Austin: get

[00:12:32] Caroline: lucky. He’s, he is a really good one. I’m, I’m very lucky.

[00:12:34] Rosanne Austin: Yeah.

[00:12:35] Yeah. Well, and it’s interesting because that small, like, I think that’s where the magic really happens. It’s in that small knowing because it takes, it’s like who you become in the process of listening to that small knowing is massive. It, it, it’s huge. Like I, I don’t know, like I know that you get how important this is, [00:13:00] but I think there you probably won’t fully understand what you’ve done.

[00:13:05] Until much later. Like it’s very shocking, like when you really look at how far you’ve come. I mean, I had the good fortune of being able to watch, you know, as an observer. But at some point we’ll have another conversation where we talk about how like, blown away you are, about who you’ve become. But before we get to any of that, like, so you make this decision to, to do this coaching, like were you afraid.

[00:13:36] Caroline: Yeah, I was afraid because again, I’m a therapist and I, I know what it means to go there, and what I’m talking about is that emotional excavation that this work requires. Um, and for me it was so much mom work. My mom, uh, my mom died right before I [00:14:00] started the coaching program. And she and I had a really complicated relationship.

[00:14:06] She died of alcoholism. We were cut off in the last couple years of her life because of the alcoholism. Um, but I loved her fiercely and it was so complicated and her death was wrapped up in. What I was perceiving as the death in me. Mm-hmm. And that’s how bad my mindset was at the time. Right. I mean, we, our minds do crazy things to us, but for me it was like I was death.

[00:14:34] She died. This, you know, the first miscarriage happened. I wasn’t able to create life. That was the kind of mindset cycle I was in was just death. I was living in death and. I was afraid of the program because I knew doing it was gonna have to be confronting all of this mom wound, you know? And what did it mean to lose a mother as I was learning to become one.[00:15:00]

[00:15:00] Mm. And that was deep. That

[00:15:03] Rosanne Austin: is deep girl.

[00:15:05] Caroline: Yeah.

[00:15:05] Rosanne Austin: Wow.

[00:15:06] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:15:07] Rosanne Austin: Wow. You know, and it’s so funny because I remember that coming up in our conversation because I, whenever I think back to when I first meet a woman, like I always make a very firm mental note. Who is she when she starts this? Like, that was really interesting to me because you were so curious.

[00:15:29] Like, I mean, it could, I could tell that like there was hurt there, but you were so curious and so clear about what you wanted to come out with that I was like, oh yeah, she’s gonna kick ass here. I’m not worried about her. And, and she’s, she’s gonna do great.

[00:15:46] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:15:46] Rosanne Austin: But that also like you committing to giving to yourself at that level with that kind of consistency was another leap.

[00:15:55] What was that like? Because like as a therapist, you’re used to [00:16:00] giving to other people. In a big way, but that very first step of saying yes to yourself and yes, that I’m gonna commit to the, to doing this program that is a super high level of receiving. So what was that like for you?

[00:16:16] Caroline: Yeah, receiving is the perfect word because especially when you’re the child of an alcoholic and a therapist.

[00:16:24] Yeah. I’m used to giving all the time and giving as much as I can, and really I was her parent for pretty much our whole relationship. So here was she was gone and I didn’t really know who I was. You know, who was I without her? And I think why a coach? And particularly one with feminine energies such as yourself, and I say that, you know, with love of like being in space with other, you know, female identifying people who are all about helping [00:17:00] you.

[00:17:01] Come into this role, this role of the feminine and motherhood and receiving all of that was exactly the space that I needed to be in and that I needed to grieve in, which was really important. Mm-hmm. And what I loved about, like our first interview was you said, you were like, you can do this. You’re actually very young.

[00:17:21] And every doctor had told me I’m old, you know, and so you just giving that kind of feedback and that kind of positivity. That was something I didn’t get from my mom. You know, I didn’t get a lot of positivity from her and so it was healing in this way that I didn’t kind of realize it would even be of like, you know, it was, it was trusting you to lead me on the path.

[00:17:47] And then I think you do a really great job of then teaching us to trust ourselves, to lead ourselves. But I needed kind of a, you know, a leader to come in and take my [00:18:00] hand and guide me for a little bit. And sometimes I think that is what women can be missing on this journey because it can feel so lonely.

[00:18:08] Hmm. It can feel like you’re not doing it with anybody, and you have nobody that’s here to, to help you and to guide you, and then to teach you those skills so that you can do it on your own.

[00:18:20] Rosanne Austin: Yeah, and I think a very, it, it’s also hard for a very specific kind of woman because, uh, those of us that are lovably.

[00:18:31] You know, got our lists, we’re always doing, doing, doing, achieving, making shit happen. It is hard to receive from other women that, you know, I think it, it takes an alpha female to hold space to an alpha female. Now Alpha shows up in many different ways, but I remember even in our first conversation, I’m like, this woman is strong.

[00:18:54] She’s got some, you know, like. Sh this has to be a unique space, [00:19:00] so I can, I appreciate what you you’re saying and I also appreciate what it meant because I think that’s a very rare thing as well where when you’re taking care of so many other people, like what it takes for you to drop the armor so that you can be poured into is like next level.

[00:19:17] Caroline: It was, it was really, really next level, and I think your program is really great because it’s. There are modules, there’s a, there’s a rhythm to it that works. You’re not dropping us in the deep end module one.

[00:19:31] Rosanne Austin: No,

[00:19:31] Caroline: but, but. Each, each one is gonna pull back a layer, you know, is gonna ask you to really look at parts of yourself and the stories that you’re telling yourself, um, that might be holding you back from receiving, you know, this love, this support, and then eventually this baby and that.

[00:19:51] It’s confronting. This work is no joke.

[00:19:57] Well, so,

[00:19:58] Rosanne Austin: okay, so that’s a good [00:20:00] segue into like what were some of the things that you saw changing within you? Because I remember distinctly, you were always there, girl. You were always there paying fucking attention. You like, you pop up, ready to go. Like what did you notice changing within you?

[00:20:22] Caroline: Well, at first I noticed that like I really had to confront my fear, you know, just this fear that my body is broken, that I am, I am just death. That death follows me, you know, all this fear and these. Diagnoses that I feel like had been put onto me. You know, we did a great exercise one session that was like the diagnoses of perimenopausal was this sweatshirt I was wearing.

[00:20:49] And you were like, take the sweatshirt off. And I like took the sweatshirt off and that was me taking the diagnosis off and letting it go. Um, and [00:21:00] similarly, like all of this mom grief, you know, I think it was like letting go the stories that I had told myself about her. One of the positive things that she had always told me was like, oh, I got pregnant really easily.

[00:21:13] You’ll get pregnant really easily. And that was something that I held onto ’cause it was something I appreciated about her. And then all of a sudden that wasn’t true, quote unquote, ’cause I wasn’t getting pregnant easily. And then it was like, oh my God. The one thing I wanted to be similar to my mom about, I’m not even, I can’t even do that.

[00:21:34] Right? So all these beliefs that I really had to strip away and first look at and then strip away and do these exercises, you know, that you teach us to kind of let them go and not allow them to be The story that I tell myself going forward was really important. And the, the second piece of that is [00:22:00] something I love that you teach and I I love to spread it too, is like, don’t stop your life while you’re on this journey.

[00:22:08] And I had had it in my head that I really wanted to get pregnant before we got married. Um, we were engaged, but I was like, no, I think it’d be so fun to have a baby before we get married. I didn’t really ever care about. Like having a wedding or marriage or just not really my thing. But you and I had kind of talked about like, I think you sh I think you should have the wedding.

[00:22:31] Like if you want to, like you should have the wedding and start planning that and don’t stop your life. ’cause I was, I was stopping my life for two and a half years just focusing on baby. And then once I stopped the program. Then I, or finished, you know, graduated of your program and then started planning the wedding and it was all of a sudden it was like things started moving in my life and I can talk about the, you know, what [00:23:00] happened, but it was like, then yeah, everything had kind of shifted.

[00:23:03] My life hadn’t stopped. It wasn’t all about having the baby, and that was really important. It gave me a lot of joy back in my life.

[00:23:10] Rosanne Austin: Oh, you’re making mama proud right now, Caroline, because like, oh my gosh. If we could just bottle that, if we could just bottle the idea that you don’t have to choose, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

[00:23:26] We can take a stand for the, and that you can live and be on this journey and have joy like, I don’t know where we as women picked up. Well, I have some suspicions, but I. I don’t know where we got this idea that we have to suffer in order to either be worthy of the thing that we want or to have quote unquote earned it.

[00:23:50] But we put ourselves through so much suffering.

[00:23:56] Caroline: Yeah. And, and right. And believe that that’s, [00:24:00] there’s like merit in that and that it’s part of the process. And maybe if we suffer harder, then we will get what we want. I truly did believe that, um, being an athlete, right? Like you think you, you know, I have to run the wind sprints in order to be good in the game or whatever it is.

[00:24:16] We’re trained to kind of believe that. And I think for you to help me let. Go of that mindset that it doesn’t have to be hard. You know that that hard is what, suffering was huge, but took a while. It was, it’s hard to let that go and to believe that you can conceive, enjoy. It’s weird, but that, that was like strange to me.

[00:24:40] Like I can be happy and conceive and that’ll just happen.

[00:24:44] Rosanne Austin: Yeah. You know, there’s a huge difference. I, and I love that we’re talking about this because there’s a huge difference between something being hard, meaning suffering and discipline. Mm-hmm. And choice and, and putting your back into something because that’s, it’s completely different energy.[00:25:00]

[00:25:00] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:25:00] Rosanne Austin: One is like the energy of commitment and decision, and the other one is misery. And clearly you, you began to see the distinction there.

[00:25:10] Caroline: Totally. And, and so it wasn’t even stopping. Trying, like, I know that word. You know, we, I go back and forth on that word, but I, I was doing the work at the same time, so I was taking all of the supplements that I knew were helping, that felt good.

[00:25:27] I was going to acupuncture. Um, I was seeing. I’m, I’m really into spiritual healers and I was getting my tarot read. I was doing things that felt good to me and felt positive, and I knew all of that. That still felt like joy, even though that was effort. Right? And then there were other, there were other, um, boundaries that I gave myself, like the boun, my big boundary, and to each woman their own.

[00:25:56] But my gift to myself was no baby showers. I [00:26:00] was like, you don’t have to go to a baby shower for the rest of the year. And like more power to women that can go. It was just too hard on me. You know, I’ll send the gift, but like, I can’t, I can’t go. I can’t be there. And that was a beautiful gift to myself because it didn’t make me feel good.

[00:26:16] Right? So it was the mix of like, do the things that make you feel good. Plan the wedding, take the supplements, go to acupuncture. All the things. And then the things that don’t make you feel good. Don’t do them. Give yourself that gift.

[00:26:30] Rosanne Austin: I mean, imagine having fucking boundaries, Caroline. I mean, like, think about that.

[00:26:34] Like, I mean, that’s such a huge thing. Like, dude, you’re just dropping bombs. I’m just so happy to be having this conversation. But like the idea that we can have boundaries. It, it’s so funny, like what you can see the light go off in people’s heads when they figure that out. They’re like, oh. What I can send a gift but not have to go and not have to go into a shame spiral for 20 years [00:27:00] because I didn’t show up.

[00:27:01] But, you know, send a gift. I mean, like. Who are you, Caroline? Have you had a head transplant? Like, who are you?

[00:27:08] Caroline: Mm-hmm. That’s what it felt like. Wow. That, I think this mindset work, that is what it gives you, right? Is that, yeah. That, that brain transplant of, of the beliefs that you, that you then start telling yourself that you then say like, I am fertile.

[00:27:26] My best days are ahead of me. You know, all of those kind of affirmations that. May have seemed cheesy to me when I started the program and then left feeling like lifelines, you know, feeling like the things that were gonna keep getting me through. One thing that was really important that you had kind of said was like, every month is a new month.

[00:27:47] And that was really important ’cause it was like, you know, your period comes and you have a couple, a moment of sadness or whatnot. And then it was like, okay, but next month is the next month, you know, is a new journey. And I’ll have been [00:28:00] taking supplements for that much longer. I will be that much closer to my wedding.

[00:28:03] I mean, like you can kind of reclaim your life back, I think with a lot of this stuff. And as we know that mind-body connection, there’s something, there’s something there.

[00:28:15] Rosanne Austin: Oh yeah, it’s everything. I mean, we, I, I don’t think we’ll fully. Understand how powerful that is. I mean, it’s, I was doing research for my fourth book that’s coming out, and I was looking at data.

[00:28:30] I’m like, there’s actual studies on the role of mindset work and fertility, and why is not everybody talking about this?

[00:28:39] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:28:39] Rosanne Austin: Right? It’s like, why is this not pasted? Everywhere. It’s freely available on freaking PubMed showing like the impact and improvement in women’s outcomes when they do this work.

[00:28:51] Like it’s, it’s crazy. But I wanna go back to something that you said, because I think that a lot of women, when they hear about [00:29:00] mindset work, they think we’re all sitting on a, in a circle like levitating. But you know, that. That kind of mindset work is not what I’m teaching. Like it is way more active than that.

[00:29:12] And I think you are a prime example of just how active it is, because, yeah, affirmations can sound cheesy, but you didn’t stop at an affirmation. You were taking action in furtherance of what you said you wanted. You were actually applying what you were learning. It wasn’t just. Eight weeks of feel good, Caroline, because you went and did something with it.

[00:29:39] That’s huge.

[00:29:40] Caroline: Yeah. And, and to kind of continue my story, when I, when we stopped working together, um, I started planning the wedding, which was huge. And then we got pregnant in March. You and I had stopped working together in January. We got pregnant in March. [00:30:00] And I miscarried after five and five and a half weeks, and I remember having to do the mindset work again, maybe go back to some of your meditations or modules, you know, but it was a little bit easier.

[00:30:14] It was kind of, I would say, I don’t know, it was a little bit easier going through the second one, feeling like, okay, but my body’s doing something. I just come off the program. Then I get pregnant again in June and there’s no heartbeat. And I have to get DA, D and C and that was really painful and really set me back.

[00:30:37] I will say like all that negative I am death mindset shit just came roaring back. It did because we’re not perfect and this stuff is a journey and it’s gonna come back. But I think as you’re, what you’re saying is like how it’s not easy. It’s not just sitting around singing Kumbaya. I think part of my journey was a little bit of [00:31:00] like, okay, prove you know how to do the work.

[00:31:02] You know, you’ve done it. Let’s, we’re gonna test this a little bit. And so I would say, you know, took me a couple weeks for sure. I grieved. I had those moments, but the other thing that I kept telling myself was. My body is doing what it knows how to do. I’ve now been pregnant three times and I wouldn’t wish three miscarriages on anybody.

[00:31:28] And I, I do grieve for the part of me that had to go through that, but I also kept saying like. Well, fuck that fertility doctor who told me this would never happen. ’cause look, it’s happening. You know, my body’s working hard. And that spiritual piece of like, it felt like my baby was working hard to get to me and maybe this month it wasn’t right.

[00:31:50] Maybe these cells weren’t right, who knows? But it felt like everything was doing what it needed to do. Baby was trying to get to me and I [00:32:00] kind of just. L surrendered to that and allowed that to be positive rather than the I am death. It was like, nope, I am life. It is trying like we’re gonna get there.

[00:32:15] Rosanne Austin: I am blown away because Do you realize who you had to become in order to take three miscarriages with that kind of a mindset like.

[00:32:28] Like that is huge. And I love the sense of humor that your highest Caroline has because she is like, well, these fucking doctors don’t know what they’re talking about. And like, because you are right. Your body was in the game. And do you know, I mean, you do know ’cause you’ve lived it. I mean, think about what it takes for you to say, my body knows what she’s doing, she’s doing what she knows to do.

[00:32:53] Let me trust her. There was something not right. She’s doing what she knows to do. Like [00:33:00] it’s masterful to be able to say that because most people would make it about them not being enough. But you grabbed the piece of information and made it work for you and to say, my body knows what she’s doing.

[00:33:16] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:17] And so

[00:33:18] Rosanne Austin: what happened next?

[00:33:19] Caroline: Yeah, so then well and again, so we’re still planning for the wedding, which really helped. I really mean that, that whole idea of like, don’t stop the rest of your life, because then I got to keep looking forward to something. There was still joy in my life, even though I had gone through back to back miscarriages, painful miscarriages, but.

[00:33:42] There was the wedding in September to look forward to my husband and I so in love, really in it together. You know, we’re gonna get all the people we love in the world together. Um, so that really also helped and it didn’t stop my life and I kept going. We get married in [00:34:00] September, we go on a honeymoon in October and we get pregnant in November.

[00:34:09] Yeah. Yeah. And you have said, you said this to me too, in the program of like, the mindset work doesn’t stop, right? So we get pregnant in September, and when I tell you immediately, I’m going, oh God, but that means I could miscarry around Christmas again. I mean, like immediately it was gonna be loss, right?

[00:34:30] Because I’d never had, I, I’d never had a full term pregnancy. It had only been lost. And so there was a lot of anxiety of like. Oh my God, can I believe this is gonna work? You know, we’d never gotten to eight weeks and then we get to nine weeks. We’d never heard a heartbeat. We finally heard a heartbeat, and God, like whoever’s listening, like it’s worth it because hearing that heartbeat for the first time after all that loss [00:35:00] was just, you know, one of the greatest moments of my life and worth everything I had been through.

[00:35:09] Rosanne Austin: Okay. Like, okay, so let’s back up the bus so that we fully appreciate what’s happened here. So you had a miscarriage, you’re in dark place for a year and a half. You come to me, you do the program in January, that’s January, 2023.

[00:35:28] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:35:30] Rosanne Austin: You have three more pregnancies after that you get married and in between all that, you were told this was never gonna happen for you because you’re in perimenopause.

[00:35:42] Your numbers are freaking shit.

[00:35:45] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:35:46] Rosanne Austin: You get married and what month did you get married?

[00:35:50] Caroline: Got married in September,

[00:35:51] Rosanne Austin: married in September, pregnant November.

[00:35:55] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:35:58] Rosanne Austin: So you made all of [00:36:00] these massive changes in and were pregnant for like, for good.

[00:36:05] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:36:07] Rosanne Austin: In less than a year.

[00:36:08] Caroline: Yep. And yep. Chest.

[00:36:16] Rosanne Austin: And how many weeks are you now?

[00:36:18] Caroline: 24.

[00:36:23] Yeah.

[00:36:29] Rosanne Austin: Unbelievable.

[00:36:30] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:36:31] Rosanne Austin: Like, that’s unfreaking. Unbelievable. Like, and, and just everything that you said about hearing the heartbeat, all of this stuff. I mean like, what is it like to be here? Now, 24 weeks into this pregnancy, you’re more than halfway, you’re getting ready like the finish line, like what’s it like to be in this place after [00:37:00] being the woman who called herself, I am, you know, death follows me.

[00:37:04] I am death. Nothing works for me. My life sucks. I can’t keep a pregnancy. Like what is, like, what’s it like to be on this side?

[00:37:15] Caroline: Hmm. I mean, I really, I wanna like hug that version of me that was really going through it, you know? ’cause she’s still close. Like, I know how hard that was and I remember going on walks and listening to your podcast and, and holding onto these women’s stories of success, you know, and.

[00:37:38] And that girl was grieving. She was grieving her mom. She was grieving the miscarriages. She was grieving that this was hard in the first place. You know, because you don’t ever tell yourself that it’s, I mean, hopefully that it’s going to be hard. You hope you’re gonna get pregnant exactly when you want to.

[00:37:55] And so there was so much grief. And, [00:38:00] and I know this is gonna annoy some people, and that’s okay.

[00:38:03] Rosanne Austin: That’s okay. You get to be as annoying as you want pregnant lady.

[00:38:07] Caroline: But it just, it made me who I am today. You know, all that loss and doing all that work is gonna make me a better mother. It really is. And I didn’t wanna hear that when I was going through it, but I.

[00:38:24] Every, every kick that I feel is this affirmation that I was right back then, that that little voice was right, that I did all the supplements were worth it, all the appointments, all the work, that it was worth it, that I needed to go through it, and it just made me stronger and more me and this version, and I love this version.

[00:38:49] And in that way, it was worth it.

[00:38:53] Rosanne Austin: It. This is an evolution. I mean, you and I are in the same camp. People find what I say, annoying as well. So High [00:39:00] five sister, we’re in the same place. ’cause like I always say, this journey is a gift.

[00:39:05] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:39:05] Rosanne Austin: It is a gift and I’m not pretending that it’s an easy one. But it’s the gifts that that require our work, our attention, our commitment, our discipline, our love, our spirituality.

[00:39:19] Every part of us are the ones that mean the most. And I agree with you this journey. Is it, it is an invitation to step into being the mother that you wanna be, because let’s be honest, if this happened for you and you never had to do the work that you did to become the woman that could see past three losses, to be the woman who could see past a diagnosis, that would probably send most people running.

[00:39:47] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:39:48] Rosanne Austin: To become that woman. Like, think about how you’re going to mother. Think about how you’re not a victim, because that’s another thing, like anyone that would find what we [00:40:00] say annoying is in victimhood, is clinging so desperately to their victimhood that they don’t wanna see the light. And I’m not sorry, not sorry.

[00:40:10] Because if more women understood this, they would be sitting in a position of victory. On their journey. And every journey is unique. Right. And it should be, of course, it’s unique, right? But it’s not personal in the sense that it’s happening to you. It’s always happening for you.

[00:40:30] Caroline: Yeah. And I think with your program or what kind of whatever, like again, the emotional excavation that we have to go through, seeing that as a gift to yourself.

[00:40:43] I think is so important, you know, that, that doing the work, doing the mom work that I had to do, doing the grief work that I had to do, doing the mindset work of, you know, changing my story, that was all a gift that I [00:41:00] gave myself. And so. Seeing it that way, I think helps rather than like, oh, it’s just one more thing.

[00:41:07] And it was like, no, no, this, this is amazing and this is something I can give myself that’s gonna help me no matter what my journey looks like, because that work has to be done for me to get to a better place. Yeah. Yeah. I, I like to look at it as, instead of being

[00:41:24] Rosanne Austin: another thing to do, it’s the thing. It’s the singular thing.

[00:41:29] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:41:29] Rosanne Austin: Because everything, your brain is portable, it’s going everywhere with you. And if you don’t get your shit together, you’re gonna make decisions from fear. You’re gonna tell yourself, well, my body can’t do this. Or you’re gonna, you’re gonna make choices that you later regret.

[00:41:44] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:41:45] Rosanne Austin: And think about who you get to be today, trusting yourself.

[00:41:50] Caroline: Mm-hmm. That’s the best part, is that you’re then left with this version of yourself that you like better.

[00:41:57] Rosanne Austin: Oh, so much better. [00:42:00] Wow. Wow. Well, so what do you think, I mean, how did this impact your relationship? Because, you know, obviously we talked about how you have this great, wonderful man. Mm-hmm. Like, what was it like to be living this journey from a different mindset?

[00:42:17] Like what did, how was that like in your relationship?

[00:42:22] Caroline: Well, he could definitely tell, which was nice to have a witness, right? Like doing all this work. Um, I remember him commenting that I had, I seemed really different after the program, you know, and whether that was just confidence or how I was speaking, it was also because I, I finished the program and was like, okay, I’m ready to get married.

[00:42:42] He’s like, oh, okay. Um. But, but like adding that joy back to our life and our relationship, you know, and like, I think anybody trying knows, like sex becomes perfunctory. It’s the thing you have to [00:43:00] do, you know, it’s the, it, it becomes this kind of job. And I think again, like trying to lean more into the joy and it not being hard and it not being a job.

[00:43:12] And we would say like I, I had to kind of. Teach him what I was learning in the sense of like, okay, we are going to act from now on, like this is happening. Our baby is coming. I need you on the same page. I need you to be that mindset warrior that is saying all the positive things that I need to hear. And so much to his credit, he just, he trusted that voice in me.

[00:43:36] You know, when I said This is gonna happen, I know my body can do this. Even after the, the other two miscarriages, like, you know, I said to him, I just really feel like my body is working and that it is working. And he’d be like, you’re right. It is like, look at us doing this. We got really close this time.

[00:43:53] All those things felt so positive. Um. And along with the wedding, and not everybody’s wedding [00:44:00] is gonna align perfectly obviously with their story, but we were so in love, right? We’re in the honeymoon stage of having just gotten married. We actually went on a honeymoon, like I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

[00:44:12] We got pregnant right after because we’re just. Having fun and loving on each other and loving even being a twosome for that time. So, oh my

[00:44:20] Rosanne Austin: gosh, Carolyn, my heart is gonna burst. I mean, I just love all this because you know, not only did you get pregnant naturally

[00:44:29] Caroline: mm-hmm.

[00:44:29] Rosanne Austin: When they told you this wasn’t gonna happen.

[00:44:33] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:44:33] Rosanne Austin: You were such a beacon for like Yes. And. In your marriage and your relationships, and that you don’t have to live under the tyranny of a diagnosis, that you are the authority. Because whether women realize this or not, I, I wanna pull this out because we can’t hear it enough. You are either the authority in your life or you’re gonna hand that [00:45:00] authority to somebody else.

[00:45:02] Claim that authority.

[00:45:04] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:45:04] Rosanne Austin: Because can you imagine like. If you hadn’t had that pivotal moment in your life where you chose even to listen slightly to that small voice, like just think about where you might be having given up on yourself. Mm-hmm. But because you didn’t give up on yourself, because you claim that authority, even as tenuously as you might have in the very beginning, you’re here, you and I are having this conversation, and you’re getting ready to have a baby.

[00:45:33] Caroline: Mm-hmm.

[00:45:34] Rosanne Austin: Like. Dude, 14 weeks if I’m doing my math right? Like dude,

[00:45:40] Caroline: yeah,

[00:45:42] Rosanne Austin: I mean, that’s incredible. Like sincerely, my prayer for you is that you never forget how powerful you are because you pulled this like outta nowhere. Like by comparison, right? Like you pulled this out and it’s really, I mean, that’s almost like kind of a little [00:46:00] bit of a misnomer because it wasn’t from nowhere.

[00:46:03] It was really from your heart. Mm-hmm. Like you were able to pull this out from a place where I think more women need to live on this journey, and that’s by heart.

[00:46:15] Caroline: Yeah. Yeah. To listen to that voice. It, it does matter. It really does. That voice is telling you that you can do this for a reason, that this will happen to you, for you for a reason.

[00:46:27] Yeah. And that was everything.

[00:46:29] Rosanne Austin: Yeah. Well, so, okay. So if you were going to leave the women listening to this, who are, they’re gonna be riveted. By this conversation unquestionably for about a zillion and five different reasons, what would be like the most important piece of information you would want them to walk away with from your unique story?

[00:46:54] Caroline: Hmm.[00:47:00]

[00:47:00] Uh, you are not deaf. Just I, I mean. I was there, I really was there. You know, it took two and a half years from start of this journey to finish and all the loss and all the grief, you know, that I had to go through that. Doing the mindset work and taking your, taking care of yourself in that way, mothering yourself in the way that I needed to re mother myself is worth it no matter the outcome.

[00:47:34] Is a gift you can give yourself, and it will only, I believe, make you a better pregnant person and mother in the future if you can really take care of your emotional needs right now with this mindset work. Uh, and I know women have said it, but to listen to that voice, that voice carried me through that my body can do this.

[00:47:59] That even in [00:48:00] loss, it means my body can do this and that. I’m meant to be a mother and I will be a mother. And how it happens, I can’t control, but I just need that belief and that will carry you through.

[00:48:14] Rosanne Austin: Mm. That is so beautiful, Caroline, and so kind, so generous, so thoughtful, and it’s just a delight as I said earlier in this conversation, to be having this conversation with you and being able to share in this moment with you because it’s just incredible to watch.

[00:48:35] Who you’ve become. And the good news is, is this, you’re gonna give this to your son or daughter. You’re gonna, you’re gonna show them what it means to be able to think critically and to think beyond what’s immediately in front of you to see, to see what their heart and. This is something, I mean, you are literally changing your family tree, not just with the addition of a baby, but the way [00:49:00] y’all think.

[00:49:01] It’s gonna be incredible ’cause the, you can go anywhere you want from here, Caroline, because you just did the hardest thing ever. You called in a baby. Everything else in this life is, is a piece of cake by comparison. So I cannot wait to see what you do next. Like go out and crush it lady like I’m just.

[00:49:18] Oh, just so thankful that you are here. So thank you for sharing your story.

[00:49:23] Caroline: Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for the work that you do. You know, the podcast and the coaching and the messaging that you give it, it helped me so much. And shout out to my cohort, um, because like the last thing I said, you know, on my last, um.

[00:49:42] Call was like, I’m gonna be on the podcast. I just know it. And to see all those women, I can still picture their faces just supporting me like I’ve never forgotten you guys, and I can’t wait to listen to your podcast episodes too.

[00:49:53] Rosanne Austin: Yep. Oh my goodness woman, thank you for that. And so many blessings to your gorgeous family.

[00:49:59] So [00:50:00] thank you.

[00:50:00] Caroline: Thank you

[00:50:01] Rosanne Austin: so

[00:50:01] Caroline: much.

[00:50:02] Rosanne Austin: Ah, my loves. Didn’t you just absolutely love what Caroline had to share? I mean. If you aren’t running through walls for this baby after listening to this podcast, I, I don’t know what’s going on with you, sister. I don’t know what would be going on for you because it’s so incredible for us to see like, and hear women who.

[00:50:25] Just absolutely slayed the dragon on this journey and weren’t confined to the scary numbers and, and showed that in fact they can get pregnant on their own. And look, you know, everyone’s path is gonna be different whether you’re trying to get pregnant, naturally, you’re going through treatment, it’s. All beautiful, but the common denominator here is that you decide to be successful, and that all starts with the way that you think.

[00:50:52] You heard it, Caroline told you she is a therapist and still desire to do this work. She wasn’t trying to [00:51:00] DIY, this shit, her dream of being a mom. Was too important to go janky on this and trying to figure it out on herself. What does she do? She did the smart thing that smart women do. You go to somebody who knows how to teach you how to think in a new way and has.

[00:51:18] Proven that they can teach others to do the same. So if you want me to help you the way that I helped Caroline, my fearlessly Fertile Method program is for women who intend to get pregnant in the next 12 months and say, hell yes to covering their bases, mind and body. Because look, the mind and the body.

[00:51:38] Work together. This is a fact. This is proven by science and if you are not leveraging this untapped resource that can make all the difference in the world, sorry baby. You’re crazy. So go to my website www.frommaybetobaby.com and apply for an interview there. My methodology has helped women around the world make their mom dreams come [00:52:00] true.

[00:52:00] Their results, as you saw today, speak for themselves. And if you don’t have a mindset for success on this journey, baby, you got a gap and hole in your strategy. Let’s fix that shit and set you up for success. Till next time, change your mindset. Change your results.

[00:52:14] Caroline: Love this episode of The Fearlessly Fertile Podcast.

[00:52:16] Subscribe now and leave an awesome review. Remember, the desire in your heart to be a mom is there because it was meant for you. When it comes to your dreams, keep saying hell yes.

When PCOS and miscarriage collide with the desperate ache to complete your family, the fear and negativity can take over fast. That’s exactly where Kara found herself — struggling with PCOS, grieving a miscarriage, and watching a year slip by without the second baby she knew was meant for her family. A neighbor’s suggestion to start listening to the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast changed everything. In this episode, Kara shares how she went from a dark, comparison-driven, statistics-obsessed spiral to 26 weeks pregnant — within months of completing the Fearlessly Fertile Full Throttle 90-day program. Her story is a powerful reminder that the pain of secondary infertility is real, and that mindset work changes outcomes regardless of how many babies you already have.

Yes. Secondary infertility — difficulty conceiving after a previous pregnancy — is common and deeply painful. Kara conceived her first daughter naturally despite PCOS, then faced a miscarriage and over a year of failed attempts when trying for baby number two. Her story demonstrates that past conception success does not guarantee future ease, and that mindset and lifestyle factors matter just as much the second time around.

PCOS can cause irregular cycles, hormonal imbalance, and challenges with ovulation that affect every pregnancy attempt — not just the first. Kara managed her PCOS through diet and lifestyle changes for her first baby, but found those same approaches weren’t enough the second time. Addressing her mindset blocks alongside medical treatment was what ultimately moved the needle.

After a miscarriage, it’s common to carry fear, grief, and a deep reluctance to get excited again. Kara describes saboteurs whispering not to hope too much even after getting a positive test. The mindset work she did helped her release the grip of past loss, stop using it against herself, and approach her new pregnancy with the trust and openness it deserved.

Not at all. Rosanne Austin addresses this directly — the pain of an incomplete family is real regardless of how many children you already have. Dismissing secondary infertility grief is a reflection of the same judgmental patterns that keep women stuck. Kara’s story honors that pain while showing what’s possible when you do the work to move through it.

The Fearlessly Fertile Full Throttle is Rosanne Austin’s 90-day fertility mindset program that helped Kara release control patterns, stop comparing herself to others, clear past grief, and shift from victim thinking to a woman who trusted herself and her baby. Within months of completing the program, she was pregnant — at 26 weeks at the time of recording. Women apply at frommaybetobaby.com.

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[00:00:00] Hey, gorgeous. If you want success on your fertility journey, you’ve gotta have the mindset for it. It’s time to kick fear, negativity, doubt, shame, jealousy in the whole clown car of low vibe, fertility, journey BS to the curb. I’m your host, Roseanne Austin. Fertility Mindset Master, former prosecutor and recovering type a control freak, perfectionist.

[00:00:20] I use the power of minds. That to get pregnant naturally and have my baby boy at 43. Despite years of fertility treatment failure, I help women across the globe beat the odds on their fertility journey just like I did. Get ready for a quick hit of confidence, joy, feminine, bad assery, and loads of hell.

[00:00:37] Yes. For your fertility journey, it’s time to get fearless, baby fearlessly fertile. Let’s do this.

[00:00:45] Welcome to the

[00:00:46] Fearlessly Fertile Podcast, episode 277 from PCOS and Miscarriage to Miracle number two, Kara’s story. Hey, my loves. I’m so excited to be here with you [00:01:00] this week because. We have such a powerful testimony to share here with you and my beloved Cara.

[00:01:09] When we met, she was struggling with PCOS. She had had a recent miscarriage and she was in a really dark place. She was starting to doubt whether she would complete her family, and a neighbor suggested that she start listening to the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast. Imagine that. It just blows my mind, like whenever I hear like.

[00:01:29] How people find this podcast and how it starts to change their lives. I mean, it’s extraordinarily humbling. And Kara was hooked, and what happened after that was she began down an entirely new path to baby making success. You are going to hear how within a matter of months, Kara went from being in that dark place, being in struggle, worried about whether or not she was ever going to have this next baby to getting and [00:02:00] staying pregnant.

[00:02:01] And that was within months of completing my fearlessly fertile, full throttle program. Now, it’s really important that we take a moment here because I know that some will listen to this and and be like, well, she already had a baby. Okay? Or like, there’s a saboteur in you that’s gonna say, well, of course she had another baby.

[00:02:21] ’cause she already had one. This is exactly why you need to be listening and listening carefully to this episode because I want you to understand a mother’s pain is real. I don’t care if you are still calling in baby number one or if you’re struggling with baby number two, baby number three or beyond, when your family is not complete, that pain is real and it is very easy.

[00:02:48] For stories where a woman has a child already to, to kind of blow that off. But this is exactly why you have to do the opposite. The judgments we hold of other people and [00:03:00] their suffering is a reflection of the judgments we have of ourselves. Now. Even if you were just gonna listen and be inspired, I mean like, like that’s great.

[00:03:08] That’s great. I love it. But if there is any tiny. Voice in you saying, well, of course she was a success story ’cause she already had a baby. You wanna check yourself before you wreck yourself, because sitting and listening to the lessons that this kind and generous woman is sharing has the ability to change the way that you look at yourself, the judgments you hold, and the way that you live your journey.

[00:03:36] Are all connected and our stories are all different, but when we feel the pain of our family not being complete, it doesn’t matter how many babies somebody already has. So I’m just speaking to that because I know that that creeps up because I’m gonna be honest, like if I heard that. You know, back in the day when my mindset was not disciplined, when I was letting [00:04:00] fear, doubt, and negativity run my life, that would’ve been the first place I went.

[00:04:03] And one of the wisest and most kind things that you can do for yourself to begin getting yourself out of the shit pit if you happen to be in it today, is to recognize the judgements you have of other people. Because we may have one finger pointing at somebody else, but we got three fingers pointing right back at us.

[00:04:24] Okay? So I say that with love. I say that to honor any woman who is struggling to have a second baby or beyond, because when the family is not complete, that pain is real. So enough said on that. I hope that you take every lesson that Kara is sharing here today and find a way to apply it to your own journey.

[00:04:45] My ladies are so kind, so generous, and we are so grateful for every single one of them that comes on. So here is my conversation with the amazing, glorious, and incredibly [00:05:00] beautiful Kara. Okay, Kara. I gotta ask you the question I always love to ask when we start this podcast. Can you believe we’re having this conversation?

[00:05:12] I can believe it. And I wrote it in my journal about a year ago that I wanted to be on the podcast. Um, so yes, definitely I knew it was gonna happen.

[00:05:22] Oh my goodness. Okay. So tell me about that, because, you know, I hear this so often from women that they’ll write it down, they’ll put it on, uh, a vision board, like, you know, tell me what, like, how did that happen for you?

[00:05:36] Yeah, I mean one of the, um, you know, projects or activities or whatever you wanna call it that, um, you gave us was, you know, kind of write what’s gonna happen. And so there were a lot of times where I would say, you know, in a certain couple weeks, I’m gonna test positive and then I’m gonna let you know right away.

[00:05:53] I think I’ll let you know, like five minutes after we, I’ve been tested. Um, but no, I, I wrote it [00:06:00] down that I was going to be on the podcast. I didn’t know when, but when I got. Um, your message a couple weeks ago, you know, am I gonna be on it? I was so excited. Um, but yeah, no, it’s definitely written in my journal, um, that I will be one of your ladies.

[00:06:14] I’ll be on here, be able to listen and share with others.

[00:06:18] Oh my goodness. I mean, that just makes my heart sing when I think about that because, you know, Kara, it’s so humbling. Like when I think about all of you, all of you who have been on the podcast, who have come through the programs like it, it’s just, it’s incredible to me to be witnessed to all of you living the dream.

[00:06:39] Like you came like, I mean that’s, and that’s. Amazing to me. Like you’re women of integrity. You made a decision that you are gonna beat the odds and you ultimately do because you kept your word to yourself. It’s, it’s just incredible. So why don’t you start us off, I mean like, [00:07:00] now that we’ve asked that question that I’d love to ask, why don’t you start by sharing with the ladies, listening a little bit about how you found yourself on this journey, and then how we met.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:12] So, yeah, so back, I guess before we met, so back 2020, um, I was able to conceive my first daughter naturally. Um, so we had been trying for about a year. My cycles were pretty all over the place. Um, you know, doctors diagnosed with PCOS. So at that point, um, I wasn’t really ready to go down the fertility journey yet.

[00:07:34] Um, I figured. We’re just starting. It’s only been, you know, at that point, a couple months. Um, so I did adjust diet. I lost about 30 pounds. Low carb, low sugar, kind of readjusted everything just to go the more natural route at first. Um. A doctor OB did put me on Metformin. Uh, I don’t know if it was that or the, you know, the healthy eating and the working out and stuff like that.

[00:07:59] Um, so I was [00:08:00] able to conceive naturally. My daughter, um, had her in December, so the whole pregnancy was, was COVID, you know, it was so much fun with that. Um, so I had her and then, you know, I was nursing for about nine, 10 months. Soon as I stepped that, um, you know, my cycle started to come back. After three cycles, I ended up getting pregnant again.

[00:08:22] Um, we did lose that baby, uh, miscarriage. I had A-A-D-N-C, um, at that point. You know, I, I don’t think we were really trying, we were just kind of like, cycles are coming back. Let’s see how life’s gonna go with a 1-year-old at that point. Um. But of course, you know, once you realize that your body won’t let you, or you know, there’s a stall, that’s all you can think of, like the main thing in our life.

[00:08:48] Um, so I tried getting on back on the Metformin, just thinking that the magic drug, which was not magic, was gonna work this time. It didn’t. Um, so about, I don’t know, 10, 11 months [00:09:00] later, my OB recommended us to a local fertility clinic. Um, so we went there, they did a workup on. Both my husband and I, um, he actually started a vitamin, just kind of got some things a little healthier.

[00:09:15] Um, but at that point it had been a year since, um, you know, we lost the baby. I was really in a dark place, kind of everything was negative mindset. Um, so one of my neighbors actually was listening to your podcast at the time, and she was realizing that, um, yeah, everything that was coming outta my mouth was.

[00:09:36] You know, not excited to keep trying. It was kind of like PO focusing on the past, the negatives, um, stuff like that. So she sent me a couple links. I was hooked. You know, I think I listened to the first like, you know, 30 episodes in the first like month or whatever. Um, so that was like March 1st, 2023. Um, and then by April 1st, [00:10:00] um, I joined the full throttle, so the fearlessly for the 90 days.

[00:10:04] Um, so that was when I started, you know, every, every day for 90 days, 15, 30 minutes a day. We’re kind of spent listening to each, uh, recording, journaling, kind of doing whatever the daily, um, habits were. And so that’s kind of how I found, found you. Um, and then we went on to a couple iis last summer. Um, I remember the second IUI posted in the Telegram group, you know, excited, nervous that I was going in for it.

[00:10:35] Um, but I remember you sent like a voice message just kind of saying. You know, kind of go into it in a place of knowing, don’t put too much pressure on this one. You know, when it works you’re gonna have 40 weeks of pressure. So just kind of be in the mindset of that. Um, and then do something for yourself afterwards.

[00:10:53] I remember we went to the zoo at that point, you know, it was, I was all into, you know, [00:11:00] seeing life, being out there, flowers being all, you know, it was like abundance of life and flowers and stuff. And I remember. At the zoo, they had a bunch of baby lions, and I remember how cute I thought it was. I was like, this is the universe telling me, you know, there is life happening and stuff like that.

[00:11:18] Um, so that one did work, but it was fine. Um, so then we had a third IUI, it switched to IVF mid-cycle. Um, we did get pregnant in um, November, and so I am. Um, 26 weeks today. I’m so letting the cat outta the back. But, um, so yeah. But yeah, no, I think, um, you know, I think as soon as we did get that positive pregnancy test in November, um, all the stuff that you’ve been helping, you know, me and the different ladies with you, you need that when you get the positive.

[00:11:54] It’s not like you always say like, things don’t just magically turn over and then. Everything’s [00:12:00] fixed. You know, it’s almost like a whole new set of worries and stress. Um, you know, every time I would feel myself getting excited or telling people or thinking about the future, you would immediately, I would get that just saboteur or kind of fear in my head of don’t let yourself get too excited because, you know, something could happen.

[00:12:23] Um, so I asked, um, I started reading the book. Um, about after getting pregnant. And then one of the main things that I think really has helped me from that book is kind of like the pre-scan ritual type thing that you had talked about with like a ball of pink light around

[00:12:41] you. Oh, you mean

[00:12:41] like fearless?

[00:12:43] Oh, you mean the Fearless Pregnancy book? Okay. I wasn’t sure if you were talking about my book

[00:12:47] or something else. Okay. So that book, so what, what It was helpful because it was definitely like, I think you realized, you know, once, obviously, like I said, once someone gets pregnant, some people think that it’s magically going to be this, [00:13:00] this fairytale of everything.

[00:13:01] But then it’s like all these new stresses come. So every time I went to the appointments, every time something, you know, maybe you didn’t feel pregnant at the time. Um, I was just always. Picturing that ball of pink light, it was just me, the baby Gus kind of, it’s just all of us, what we’re doing. And that always helped me get through the appointments.

[00:13:21] Um, I think my husband, you know, kind of looked at me like, what are you doing over there? But I’m like, I just need a minute. I need to calm down. Um, but, but yeah, so,

[00:13:30] wow. That’s incredible, Kara. So, okay, so let’s back up the bus a little bit because you were dropping so many bombs there, like with, with all of this.

[00:13:40] Goodness. So you basically went from listening to this crazy lady on a podcast that your neighbor recommended to doing this program. Like I, I’m super curious and I’m always curious about this because. In a highly medicalized society, the [00:14:00] first thing we go to is medicine, treatments, all that other stuff, which is fine, like it’s a, it’s a wonderful tool.

[00:14:08] But I’m curious about what made you want. To look into this mindset thing because it could have been super easy for you to just say, you know what? I don’t need to listen to any of that. I’m just gonna take my Metformin, which didn’t end up working for you, but like, you know, and I’m gonna do all this treatment stuff.

[00:14:27] Like why did you make the 90 day commitment to yourself? Because that’s ultimately what

[00:14:33] you did in full role. Yeah. I mean, I think at the same time, like I said, I had done. The low carb, the low sugar with, um, with my daughter and I, I always felt like that was a lot of it too. Um, so that had something to do with it.

[00:14:47] I, I didn’t necessarily wanna just put more drugs in my body, um, without trying different things. And I knew that my body definitely reacts to stress. Definitely reacts to if [00:15:00] I am negative about something or if I worry about something, I can feel things going on that I know kind of just. Stop what’s going on.

[00:15:08] And so, um, instead of just kind of letting, you know, letting a doctor say, let’s just put you on these 14 meds, which I ended up doing. Um, but you know, it was just kind of another opportunity. And I felt like being a new mom, being in a different, I guess, mindset, um, and that that didn’t necessarily. Only do it for the second pregnancy.

[00:15:31] I wanted a better mindset to be the mom for my daughter as well. You know, there were a lot of things in the 90 day program that had nothing to do with getting pregnant. It had something to do with, you know, letting things go, focusing on the positive. Um, you know, I think a big thing was that things didn’t necessarily.

[00:15:53] You know, I was always like, oh, it happened to us, or it happened, you know, negatively. But it, you know, rethinking that [00:16:00] things happen for us now and, and you know, kind of that kind of mindset switch. Um, but yeah, no, I think it’s definitely helped with obviously getting pregnant, but then also, like I said, being a better wife, mother kind of friend, just person not being so, so, you know.

[00:16:21] I don’t know what the, what the best word is, but anxious and stressed and stuff like that.

[00:16:26] Were you nervous when you started that? Because that’s kind of a leap lady, it’s a kind of a leap to go from podcast to like a 90 day commitment. Mm-hmm. Like what was the thing that really pushed you over that line?

[00:16:39] Because, I mean, had you ever invested in yourself

[00:16:42] in that before? Not, um, I dunno. I think, I think it was just. Feeling like, almost like rock bottom, like, you know, I felt like the podcasts were definitely aligning a lot of the women that were talking and, and some of the things that you were saying was exactly what I was feeling.[00:17:00]

[00:17:00] Um, I was definitely stressed. I remember, um, even like pressing the submit button when, you know, signing up. I was like, oh my God, am I doing, am I doing, you know, and it’s like, it’s not a big deal in, in the big scheme of things, but it’s still like you’re making a big decision and stuff like that. Um, you know, I had, I had done, like, I listened to the podcast, I think you had a workshop where it was like a two night workshop that I attended.

[00:17:25] Um, and I think that’s when I heard about the 90 day program. Um, and I had, I know you always ask ladies like, you know, or don’t, don’t ask permission to do it. Just, you know, do it with, uh, if you wanna do it. And, um, I remember talking to my husband about it. And yeah, he was like, if you, if you wanna do it, you’re gonna do it.

[00:17:43] You know, it’s, it’s something that is gonna help you and push you forward. And he actually, during it, um, you know, I was talking to him last week when preparing for this, and he was like, you totally changed. You totally changed into, um, a better version of yourself. And when I [00:18:00] finished the 90 days, you know, he could tell that I was slowly.

[00:18:03] Slipping back and he encouraged me to do it again. You know, kind of redo it all with a different mindset. Um, so no, he was totally on board. Um, I think there was one day something happened and he mentioned that. He was like, oh, maybe that was Gus. And I thought at that moment it was so sweet. That, um, you know, it was kind of like trickling into him.

[00:18:24] Oh my gosh, Kara, that’s hilarious. So like, the husbands are all like, this is, I think what I love about what you’re sharing here is two things. Number one, so many of us shrink back ’cause we say, oh, you know, I need to talk to my husband about this. And it’s like, you’re a grown ass woman and your husband already believes in you.

[00:18:45] Like, and he basically told you, you’re already gonna do, you know what you, you know us. You know, like why are Yeah, exactly. So like, why would you shrink back from your own authority as a woman who [00:19:00] trusts herself? And maybe that was part of it is learning to trust yourself at some level, you know? And I think the other part of this, which is interesting is that.

[00:19:10] The husbands tend to start off a little skeptical, but when they start seeing the change, they’re like, boom.

[00:19:16] Yeah. If they get to deal with us in a more happy, happy mindset than, uh, than our, our other selves. Um, but yeah, no, he was always, um, yeah, very supportive of it. Um, I think he would. You know, after a couple of our, um, group sessions, you know, he would ask me how it went.

[00:19:36] Um, you know, and of course there’s things that you’re like, uh, we’ll talk about it after I digest it a little bit. Um, but, but there were definitely things, you know, in the, like I said, in the group calls and in some of the, um, 90 day. Um, information that was, that was more about, you know, fixing relationships or fixing whatever is causing some of these issues that’s blocking, getting [00:20:00] pregnant.

[00:20:00] And a lot of it I think, was conversations between me and him and things about controlling and stuff. So I think it, it was more than just fertility. It was like, not marriage counseling, but it was definitely helpful of having and figuring out how to have those conversations.

[00:20:18] Yeah, and you’re so right. You know, that’s such a critical part of all of this is like the way we do one thing is the way we do everything.

[00:20:25] You know, and we have patterns and if we hold onto certain patterns in our work, in our relationships mm-hmm. With our families, you know it, you know, people think, oh well that doesn’t have anything to do with fertility. And it’s like, well actually yes, because if you are blocking receiving what it is that you desire from your partner at work, things like that, do you think you’re not doing that everywhere?

[00:20:48] Yeah. Yeah. And I definitely saw, you know, once we started actively. Trying. We met with the fertility clinic. It was like everything in my life revolved around, um, you know, [00:21:00] trying to conceive and that’s not what I wanted. You know, we weren’t able to enjoy ourselves, enjoy our time with our daughter who was here with us, you know, probably.

[00:21:09] You know, if you think about that year of her life, um, obviously I was there, we were doing stuff, um, but you look back and you’re like, wow. Like I was so just focused on, okay, I’m gonna test in a couple days, or this is when this next thing is gonna start. Or, you know, what did the fertility clinic say? So it’s definitely a lot of things in the head that, um, that just needed to be settled down.

[00:21:34] Wow. You know, that’s another really interesting point that you’re raising, Kara, because for when a woman struggles to have a second or third baby or beyond, I think we forget that if we don’t have our head on straight, we’re not actually present with the children that we have. Like, nobody wants to think about that, but I think it’s, you are raising a very important [00:22:00] point because you don’t get that time back.

[00:22:02] So you get to choose how you’re showing up.

[00:22:05] Yep. Yeah, and she was, you know, at that point, she’s two, three years old and you know, she just has no idea. She just wants me and wants my attention and I think there was a lot of, you know. Whether I was listening to your podcast in, in my headset while I’m watching her or, you know, getting frustrated because she’s not going down for bed because I just wanna read the book or listen to more podcasts.

[00:22:29] Um, so it was just kind of definitely getting the, uh, um, you know, middle road for that. Um, but yeah, no, there was a lot of things that I was realizing and like, kind of back to your question. Why I joined was because I was noticing kind of like the spiral effect of if I keep down this road, you know, I’m gonna be spending less time focusing on her and spending less time with my husband and, and stuff like that.

[00:22:55] Wow. So, okay, so you, you were diagnosed with [00:23:00] PCOS and then, so you guys had done a couple rounds of

[00:23:05] mm-hmm.

[00:23:05] IUI. And then one of those turned into IV is correct?

[00:23:09] Yeah, so they Correct. They had switched, um, one of my meds into like an injectable form. So before it was just taking a pill certain days of the month.

[00:23:19] Um, and at that point I think I had grew like, I don’t know, 20, 30 follicles and they were like, we cannot do an IUI, we don’t need like 60 babies. I was like, well, I’ll take any. Um, but yeah, so we switched over mid cycle. Um, yeah, we did a retrieval. Then just kind of let the body relax a little bit. We didn’t just, um, do the transfer right away.

[00:23:43] Um, but yeah, I think at that point we were still deciding, you know, and that was one of the things I also struggled with. I think in, in a lot of the, um, you know, a lot of your ladies do conceive naturally, and I think in my mind I was still kind of fighting. [00:24:00] IVF is IUI, you know, or natural. And I was kind of like, if everyone else can do natural, then I should be able to do it.

[00:24:08] But then I was also on another side of it, as you know, I was trying to receive and accept help. Um, so I think at that point it was kind of like, you know, I could do natural again. I know I did it with my daughter. I know my body, you know, eventually can do it. Um. But I, there was one, one session where it was just kind of like, let people help you, like, you know, accept the help, accept people, you know, whether that’s the doctors, whether that’s, you know, different, um, squad people in the community.

[00:24:44] Um, but just kind of let people in, let people experience this with you. Um, and that was when I was like, you know, it’s, I don’t know why I’m fighting this. You know, we’re kind of on the path. Um, the doctors, the nurses were great. Everyone was supportive. Um, [00:25:00] but yeah, that was a big thing for me too, of deciding do I, do I really push for this natural or do I push for, for IVF?

[00:25:09] Mm. You know, it’s so funny ’cause that’s what we do to ourselves, right? Like we, we kind of get into this really locked up place where we’re not making decisions from possibility. It’s Right. Well, if other people comparing other people, why can’t I?

[00:25:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:24] And it’s, yeah, you’re exactly right. It’s all about comparison.

[00:25:27] And when you’re in that place of comparison, you’re not in your clarity. Mm-hmm. You’re not in your power. You are allowing what other people are doing to have authority over you instead of you deciding, hey, you know what, for where my husband and I are at,

[00:25:40] right? Mm-hmm. This actually

[00:25:41] feels good to me.

[00:25:42] Yep.

[00:25:43] So I remember that being, that being, I think on one of our calls. Um, I think that was, I think one of my questions of, you know, how do I decide. Which way to go. If I feel like, like you said, I, I shouldn’t be comparing myself to others. This is our [00:26:00] situation and that’s one of the things that I do. You know, I do like the affirmations or just kind of talk to myself throughout the day, every day still.

[00:26:08] And I just tell myself, you know, even if I. Other people, you know, chose different options. Even if other people have trouble with their pregnancies, you know, you know, possibly like I, you know, miscarried, that has nothing to do with this pregnancy. You know, I keep telling myself it’s like, it’s all about me, is not like, it’s just a whole different mindset of comparing yourself verse, you know, like, it has nothing, nothing to do with, with you.

[00:26:34] You know, you see stories online, you see people that. Issues. And they’re like, what if that happens to me? And you compare yourself, like you were just saying, and it’s not worth it.

[00:26:45] You’re making mama

[00:26:46] proud,

[00:26:47] Kara,

[00:26:47] you’re making a really great, I read all of my notes and I, I was taking some notes on, um, you know, things that I remember that kind of hit home and I’m like two pages in it and I’m like, well, I can’t just read off bullet points on this, on this [00:27:00] podcast.

[00:27:00] But there were so many things that I feel like that have just changed, you know, changed me in just a year.

[00:27:07] You know, and that’s actually a really interesting point was that, you know, if you look it exactly, we’re basically a year from when you started.

[00:27:18] Yeah, yeah. All, all it took

[00:27:21] and, and well, and in the first 90 days you’re just learning this material.

[00:27:24] Yeah. And like you started applying it, you started living it, you’re talking to yourself, you’re doing all kinds of things that your, your husband’s probably like, you know. But look at, you know, and people think I’m messing around when I say I work with women who are committed to getting and staying pregnant in the next 12 months.

[00:27:43] And you are living proof again. Mm-hmm. That, that is possible.

[00:27:49] Yeah. Yep. Yeah, I know it was, yeah. ’cause the 90 days started April 1st, um, and yeah, it’s end of April, so

[00:27:59] [00:28:00] Yeah. And you’re 26 weeks pregnant. I mean, this is it. It’s just extraordinary. So what are some of the things that you think. Are going to impact you the most moving forward.

[00:28:13] Like you, you use certain tools mm-hmm. To help you get into that place where you could receive, where you stopped comparing yourself. You stopped being a fricking negative Nancy in your neighborhood. Right. And you, and you stopped using the past against yourself, and you were able to move forward from a heartbreak of miscarriage.

[00:28:32] What do you th how do you think this is gonna serve you moving

[00:28:35] forward? Yeah, um, I think one of the, one of the sessions talked about, you know, kind of letting go of the past, writing letters, not necessarily giving them to people. Um, but I did hold on to a lot of, a lot of things that even, you know, from my childhood, um, through now.

[00:28:54] Whether it had with fertility or anything else. Um, you know, I think I was [00:29:00] always just holding a grudge or holding onto that. Um, so I think that definitely helped. Even now, you know, if something bothers me, just think, does this really affect me? Is it really going to make a difference in a week or a year, or anything like that?

[00:29:15] So, um, thinking about it like that. I think the control that I talked about, a big thing of, of wanting to be in control. Yeah. Especially when you have kids. You

[00:29:27] little

[00:29:28] controlling Kara, you little. I always tell my husband that he’s controlling and he’s like, you realize we’re both controlling in like different ways, so, which makes it even harder.

[00:29:35] Um, and then my daughter of course gets it from both of us, I think. But you know, when she was one or two, you know, controlling naps and controlling, you know, we’ve got to go to this thing at a certain time, um, that would just stress me out and it would kind of turn into a whole spiraling thing. So. You know, and like you said, it, everything rolls over into itself.

[00:29:58] So controlling of, [00:30:00] of personal aspects and work and infertility. Um, so I think that’s been a big thing that I’ll, I’ll be able to continue working on. Um, I. And then I think one of the other things that I didn’t mention was in the, some of your podcasts, you talk about statistics, um, and doctor, you know, you go to the doctor and you find your results, and then everyone’s so fixated on results.

[00:30:24] Um, that was a big thing for me too, is, you know, you get blood work done. And you immediately start looking in the app and you’re like, okay. You know, freaking out. And then you Google it and compare it to everyone else. Um, and so there were a lot of times these, this last year during the iis and the IVFs were, you know, it would be not necessarily great news, um, but I would just be like, who cares?

[00:30:48] You know, like it’s just a number. It’s not necessarily like this is what it’s gonna be the next, you know, how many cycles we’re gonna be doing. Um, but I think that too is a big thing of getting away [00:31:00] from that. Um. Doctor numbers, mindset, and just kind of believing that, you know, this isn’t permanent.

[00:31:09] Things can change each cycle.

[00:31:14] I know a couple more things

[00:31:16] we need to repeat. Yeah, we, we need to repeat that like multiple times because people, it, it, and this seems to be kind of an interesting theme in our conversation, is all about authority. Right, like think about, I mean, just think about who you’ve become because it would’ve been really easy for you to beat yourself up saying, well, I have a daughter.

[00:31:35] I’m being greedy. All of this other crap that I think we hear also a lot of this weird cannibalism, you know, within the fertility community where they say, oh, well if you’re, you know, just be happy you have one, but you were so. Dialed into your desire and you had really clear ideas in your heart that another child [00:32:00] was meant for you, that you like blew past all of that insanity, and then were able to take control of your thought process even when it came to statistics and numbers.

[00:32:11] I mean, that’s mixed.

[00:32:12] Yes, and both my, uh. Husband and I are only children. Um, so we both knew we didn’t, we, we wanted to have, um, you know, at least one sibling for our daughter. Um, so yeah, it was never a question of if it was, when is this gonna happen, which is out of our control. Um, and you know how, which is also out of our control, but it was just not, it was never a, if so.

[00:32:37] Wow. That’s incredible. Well, so if you were going to share with the ladies listening, because I mean, millions of women are gonna listen to this and Yeah, right. No pressure. Um, but yeah. Yeah. But if you were gonna say like, look, ’cause that’s the way I like to interact with people. If I only have one interaction with people, what would I want it to be?

[00:32:57] What is the truth that I would wanna tell that [00:33:00] hopefully at some level they would take in, because you’re sitting on the other side of this journey now, era. You beat the odds. You were you, you found a way to apply, which you’re learning, and now you’re 26 weeks pregnant. So what are a few things that you would love for the women listening to really take to heart

[00:33:20] from your experience?

[00:33:21] Yeah, I think, and some of these things we’ve already touched on, but you know, the fact that so many of these things bleed into other parts of our life. So whether it’s work, stress, home stress, you know, trying for a baby. Um, everything is, is interconnected. Um, again, with the control, um, you know, I always wanted to be in control of fertility, you know, kind of looking, okay, if we get pregnant this month, I will have the baby this month.

[00:33:49] And then this is how, you know, this is, we’ll be able to dress the baby and at, you know, and Christmas and this, it’s like that has, you know, it’s just so out of control and so crazy to even put into, you know, [00:34:00] um, so, you know, kind of that mindset switch of. I know the baby is coming. Um, you know, the baby will find us when the baby is ready.

[00:34:09] Um, I think there was a couple sessions where, you know, it was, you know, do some things to stand out to let the baby know you’re ready. So we would, um, you know, didn’t necessarily put like a nursery together. Um, but I bought a couple new outfits, a couple items, you know, when we were doing, um. Just different like meditations and thinking stuff like that.

[00:34:32] For some reason I always was thinking like a nautical theme for the baby. Um, but that was more a baby boy. Um, it’s a, it’s a girl. Um, so I, I have like, uh, a sailboat in one of the rooms still that I would always walk by and see. Um, when I was looking at my journals, I had drew some sailboats. Um, so just kind of switching that mindset of, no, we are ready for you, baby, whenever you are ready for us.

[00:34:59] [00:35:00] Um, and then again, just the other thing of having that positive mindset of things happening for us instead of against us. Um, you know, put that energy into. Opening yourself up for this baby to come find you. And I think if I would’ve heard myself say that like a year or two ago, I would’ve been like, what is this girl talking about?

[00:35:19] Um, but I mean, it’s so true. Like there’s so many things that, you know, it’s, it’s crazy. All the negative negativity and stress that you’re putting out, it’s no wonder that your body or your baby is like, I think I’m gonna hold back and, and wait a little bit until this, you know, woman gets it under control.

[00:35:35] But, so that would be what I’d say.

[00:35:38] Oh my goodness, Carol. Well, you know, I, it’s such a delight to have this time with you and really see how far you have come because so many people will choose to hold onto their negativity as opposed to doing the work to be in a place where they can achieve the things that they wanna achieve.

[00:35:57] I mean, because now like. [00:36:00] You’ve called into babies now, everything else, Kara, is a piece of cake. Go start a business, go get another degree, whatever it is that you wanna do, because it’s you’re, you’re proving to yourself. And I mean, it’s heartbreaking that we have to prove it, but sometimes that’s like part of our life’s, you know, situation where we have to remember that we have the power and we need reminders like this to come into our lives to say, yeah, when I put my mind to something, I can absolutely do it.

[00:36:29] So you know what you’ve shared here. Is such gold. It’s so generous, it’s so kind. And just know that you are touching other women’s lives by sharing your experience and and showing them that they can do it too. So thank you so much for sharing your story with us and I can’t wait to see pictures of the baby in the Telegram group.

[00:36:53] And so thank you so much Womans. Thank you. I appreciate it. OMG loves. Can you see why I love my ladies so [00:37:00] much? Dude. You know, last episode, episode 2 76, we were talking about the courage to be the one. Can you see why Kara is the one, the one that beat the odds here? Can you see how she was able to summon the courage to do something different to follow her heart?

[00:37:19] She knew that. Her mindset needed attention. She knew that she had done all the things she needed to be different, and she took the leap. She was afraid at first, but she took the leap and boom. Within months of completing the Fearlessly Fertile Full Throttle program. Pregnant lady, and as of the recording of this podcast, she was 26 weeks along.

[00:37:42] She’s much farther than that now. So I hope that you have taken all the lessons that Kara so kindly and generously shared and are tucking them in your back pocket because. I know that Kara would tell you that if she could do it, so can you. The [00:38:00] circumstances may be different, but the drive and the will to be a mom is shared baby.

[00:38:05] And if you wanna learn what I taught Kara, we are going to be opening up. Registration for my Fearlessly fertile, full throttle 90 day program this week, and if you are not actively participating in my mid-year makeover, you are missing out. We start tonight, June 17th with evening number one, and you do not want to miss this.

[00:38:33] The women participating in my midyear makeover are going to have the. First invitations to be part of the next iteration of Fearlessly Fertile, full throttle. You wanna make sure that you are on that list, baby, and so you can jump on this program, which has women all over the world absolutely buzzing.

[00:38:52] It’s just crazy. So. Go to the link in the show notes here. If you have not registered for the mid-year [00:39:00] makeover, participate in this fortnight training that I’m doing and be on the lookout for your invitation to Fearlessly fertile, full throttle. It’s gonna be amazing. We start July 1st. Hey, you have an opportunity to turn your journey around this.

[00:39:13] Same way that Kara did. Kara did it within months, and it is so possible for you. You at this point, have heard from so many women who have come through full throttle and heard about their incredible success stories, Rocky, Tanya, Katie, and so many more. So be on the lookout for that. And don’t you dare forget that the desire in your heart to be a mom is there because it was meant for you.

[00:39:39] Go to my website www.frommaybetobaby.com to learn what is new. Get yourself involved in the mid-year makeover. Be on the lookout for full throttle. The doors are gonna be opening very soon. Till next time, change your mindset, change your results.

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Becoming pregnant after fertility challenges often requires more than medical treatment—it requires the courage to think differently, act differently, and stand alone when necessary. In part 3 of the Fertile AF series, this episode explores the mindset shift required to beat fertility odds and become the outlier rather than the statistic.

This conversation centers on one essential question: Do you have the courage to beat fertility odds? Answering it honestly reveals how belief, integrity, and responsibility shape fertility outcomes. When women develop the courage to challenge statistics, trust themselves, and commit fully to their desire to become mothers, they create conditions for fertility success that go beyond conventional expectations.

This episode explains why courage—not positivity—is the foundation of a fearlessly fertile mindset, and how choosing to be “the one” changes the trajectory of a fertility journey.

Having the courage to beat fertility odds means believing in your ability to succeed despite statistics, age, diagnoses, or repeated setbacks. It requires choosing belief, responsibility, and action even when outcomes are uncertain.

Courage is important because fertility success often requires standing apart from conventional thinking. Women who beat fertility odds are willing to challenge limiting beliefs, endure discomfort, and persist when others would quit.

Yes. Positivity alone is not enough. Mindset involves deep belief, resilience, and the willingness to take responsibility for thoughts, choices, and actions—especially during repeated challenges or failures.

Becoming an outlier means refusing to be defined by statistics or medical predictions. It involves adopting the mindset of someone who expects success and behaves accordingly, even when outcomes are uncertain.

Yes. Many women conceive naturally or carry pregnancies to term despite low odds when they address both mind and body. While outcomes are never guaranteed, courage and mindset play a critical role in how women navigate fertility challenges.

 Hey, gorgeous. If you want success on your fertility journey, you’ve gotta have the mindset for it. It’s time to kick fear, negativity, doubt, shame, jealousy in the whole clown car of low vibe, fertility, journey BS to the curb. I’m your host, Roseanne Austin. Fertility Mindset Master, former prosecutor and recovering type a control freak, perfectionist.

I use the power of minds. That to get pregnant naturally and have my baby boy at 43. Despite years of fertility treatment failure, I help women across the globe beat the odds on their fertility journey just like I did. Get ready for a quick hit of confidence, joy, feminine, bad assery, and loads of hell.

Yes. For your fertility journey, it’s time to get fearless, baby fearlessly fertile. Let’s do this. Welcome to the Fearlessly Fertile Podcast. It’s the Fertile As Fuck series. Be the One. Hey, my Loves. This is part three of The Fertile As Fuck series, and in this episode, woo. I’ve been, oh, I’ve been thinking about this one for a long time.

This is such a good, like I just. Just so excited about this because the idea that I’m gonna be sharing here with you is one that I shared with my Fearlessly Fertile Method program, ladies, and I gotta tell you, this is some mind blowing shit, like when you really. Sit with what I’m going to be asking you today.

It touches on so many critical aspects of how you show up to this journey, that it is a really powerful way to get really clear and really honest with yourself about success on this journey. And I want you, when I pose the question, I really want you to pay attention to it because it’s really easy to say yes off the bat, but if you do, you might be lying to yourself, and that’s not the intention here.

The intention is not for you to answer this question Yes, and not actually mean it. Because one of the ways that we, as I had mentioned in the episode on trust a couple weeks ago, actually like four episodes, uh, ago, that’s actually episode two 70, so that’s actually six episodes ago. We have so many episodes of this podcast that sometimes we get a little lost, but anyway.

This question of trust and integrity on this journey is such a critical one because if you’re not honest with yourself, especially about the question that I’m gonna be posing here, like it only works against you, right? None of what I have been teaching or talking about over 200. 76 episodes of this podcast is about rah rah, like fake positivity, all of this, because positive is not enough.

Being positive on this journey is not enough. It’s not enough to be able to put a Pollyanna spin on things. Like that, that might work once, but it’s not gonna give you the kind of resilience that I’m talking about when I talk about fearlessness becoming fearlessly fertile and, and those kinds of things.

Like the ethos of fearlessly fertile is not positivity. It is fucking belief. And belief in the middle of a fucking storm belief when nobody else believes belief, when it’s just you and belief in the face of crazy statistics, belief in the face of your age ticking up and all of these other things, and even belief in the face of consistent fucking failure.

That is what it means to be fearlessly fertile, is to be able to stand in front of all of that and say, you know what motherfuckers. I’m the one. I’m the one that is gonna beat the odds. And that’s my question to you. Do you have the courage to be the one, to be the one that has a baby in her fifties? Do you have the courage to be the one that is in her mid forties and becoming a mom for the first time?

Do you have the courage to be the one that stands up to your doctor that tells you there’s no fucking way? And be the woman that says, I will find a way. Sir. Right. Do you have the courage to stand by your desires, even in the face of people telling you you’re fucking crazy? Do you have the courage to be the woman that becomes an outlier instead of a statistic?

Do you have the courage woman to be the one? Do you, I’m serious. Think about that question. Do you have the courage? To be that person, to be that woman. Think about that, because there may be part of you that wants to rush to say, yes, but here’s the deal. Having done it myself, it means that you are going to become, let’s just call it a bit of an oddity.

You will have to become and step into your weirdness in order to have the courage to be the one, because you’re gonna do shit differently. You are gonna have to number one, okay? Like number one, if you are going to be the one, the number one thing is you have to think like someone who is the one, okay?

Because if you think like a sheep, you’re not gonna get there. Okay. You will never become a goat. Greatest of all time. Being a sheep, you just won’t, you won’t. You will be like everybody else. So when I use the word courage, I wasn’t fucking around. It takes courage to beat the odds on this journey. It takes courage to be the kind of person that says, I know what the statistics say, but those statistics.

Don’t mean shit ’cause they didn’t include me. They are a single data point. They are not the only piece of data. Right. That piece alone makes you a fucking weirdo. I mean, think about how many people would run away from 10% odds when you hear somebody, yeah. You got a 10% chance of this happening. Do you know how many people would run from that?

Like, I wanna hang out with the motherfuckers that say, Hey, at least I got a 10% chance of this working out. I’m gonna focus in on the 10% I gotta shop baby. Those are the people that become the one. Do you have the courage to be that? It’s a legit question. And I’m not saying you’re a bad person if, if you tap out at that, not here to judge.

Not at all. Everyone has their own life’s path, baby, but the sooner you get comfortable with what it takes to be the one. The quicker you’re going to create those circumstances. Think about what we’ve been talking about in the Fertile As Fuck series. We talked about this. Quit being like, just quit fucking playing.

Nice. We also talked about the time being now quit putting shit off and quit living in the past. Quit using the past to make yourself fucking miserable and to sabotage your success. And now we’re talking about really the courage to be the one. Do you have it? Do you have it? And this is something that is so intensely personal, and it is a decision that I think is very sobering because I remember when I made the decision.

It was really interesting. I knew that I was gonna be stepping into something that was going to make my life very different. And I say it was sobering because sometimes we will fantasize and create fiction around what it means to have the courage to do something. Courage requires a sobriety in a sense.

A, a willingness to be like, okay, I accept the responsibility for this. I say that I want to have this baby. I say that I want to beat the odds. So I accept responsibility for what comes along with that. Because what tends to come along with that, which I, I, I touched on a little bit earlier, but I think bear some reinforcement here, is you can end up on a very lonely road.

Because not a lot of people are gonna get that. Most people are quitters and, and like, look, again, not here to judge. I’m just saying most people will quit. Think about how many people will so quickly scurry over to you when they hear that you’re considering giving up on this baby. Oh, you know what, you know, you’re, you could just go and do this or to go do that.

You can still be happy. You can take 15 vacations a year now that you won’t have to worry about paying for college. All, I mean, like. People are so fast to run up and help you justify failing. ’cause I actually don’t believe that you fail until you give up. Right? So when people love to clamor around you, oh, you know, we always knew that, you know, it just never seemed like a fit for you to have a baby.

It’s like, what the fuck? Like, so people will laugh at you and scoff at you for having the courage to be the one, but yet they’re just so compassionate and so ready to be there when you give up. Right, so that you get down to their level and you can both wallow in your own fucking mediocre lives, right?

Like think about what that means. It means you have to have the courage to stand alone. It’s not easy. Okay? Everyone wants to say yes to this and I’m not trying to talk you outta it. I mean, shit. I love working with women who have the courage to be the one, ’cause they become the one. Okay. There’s nothing I love more than watching women live the life of their dreams and, and affect their family trees forever and deepen their relationships and be so fucking happy and write books and build businesses and get fucking rich.

Like it’s amazing because their lives become so rich, so full, so fuck. Yeah. So awesome. And they step into their purpose. All because they had the courage to be the one. Do you have it? I’d encourage you to sit with that. Maybe journal about it. Do you have the courage to be the one. There’s certainly a price to pay.

Okay. I am not saying it’s all rainbows and unicorns, but I will tell you, being one of those women who had the courage to be the one and like, dude, I, I’m not gonna pretend that that wasn’t an, like, that, that was somehow an easy choice for me. Like I. When I realized what was gonna be asked of me, like who I would have to become, I would have to be willing to think differently and to do the work to change the way that I thought.

Because if I was trapped in statistics, nay saying, fear what anyone else thought, I wouldn’t have my son today. So I had to let go of. All of those structures. I had to be willing to look beyond all of those things and trust myself, which wasn’t easy at the time, but I knew I cared more about calling in this boy because somewhere in my heart I knew that I was meant to be a mom.

Okay. And my path to motherhood didn’t look like most people’s, right? I, I had a baby when I was much older, okay? And I did it in a way that medicine told me was fucking impossible. All right? And I watch other women do the same. So that’s why I get such a thrill about this, because it shows. I mean, just the, the incredible human spirit when you are willing to step out of the norm and have the courage to do something that most people don’t.

And, and if you wanna be an outlier, that’s what comes along with it. So I’m asking you, mama, do you have the courage to be the one? And look, here’s the thing, you don’t have to know how to get there. It starts with the courage. It starts with the courage to be the one, because you can learn all of the other things.

I mean, fuck, I teach women about mindset every fucking day, right? Been doing this shit for 10 years. I know how to help women use their mind to help them get pregnant. I know how to help women become successful on this journey into the face of insane odds. I also know how to help women get pregnant naturally when medicine has not done the trick.

Okay? Just go listen to the episodes. Go listen for yourself. These women ignite something within them that gives them what it takes to be the one. They all have it within them. You have it within you, but it needs to be honed. It’s something that doesn’t like it is endemic in you. It is natural to you. But we as women have not been taught how to live that way, at least not in American culture.

So this is why it requires education, why it requires coaching to pull that out and to really begin applying that it is in fact a skillset. The drive is gonna come from within you, but it is a skillset to learn what to do with it. So do you have the courage to be the one? And if you want my help becoming the one.

My Fearlessly Fertile Method program is for women who intend to get pregnant in the next 12 months and say, hell yes to covering their bases, mind and body. Because look, if you are not including your mindset in this, the beautiful constellation of things you’re doing to calling this baby, you got a big problem.

The mind and the body work together. You will never out treat or outs supplement or out fucking yoga, a shitty mindset. Your mind goes everywhere with you baby. And if it’s not working in your favor. Mm. Time to unfuck that go to my website www.frommaybetobaby.com. Apply for an interview there. My methodology is help women around the world make their mom dreams come true.

The results speak for themselves. We got the receipts, baby. Till next time, change your mindset. Change your results. Love this episode of The Fearlessly Fertile Podcast. Subscribe now and leave an awesome review. Remember the desire in your heart to be a mom is there because it was meant for you. When it comes to your dreams, keep saying hell yes.

We are half way through 2024, Mama. Don’t like the results you’ve gotten so far? Listen to this special announcement about something I cooking up for you to help you turn sh*t around fast!

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If you’ve been on the fertility journey for any length of time, you already know this truth on a gut level: fertility mindset and time are inseparable. And yet, so many women find themselves trapped in a painful contradiction—agonizing over time while simultaneously squandering it in ways that quietly sabotage their success.

In Part 2 of the Fertile AF series, we’re taking a bold, unfiltered look at the warped relationship women have with time on the fertility journey. From procrastinating on the very changes you know you need to make, to living emotionally in the past and letting old stories dictate what’s possible now—this episode dismantles the mindset patterns that delay miracles.

Here’s the uncomfortable truth most people won’t say out loud:
If you don’t change your relationship with time, being fertile as f*ck becomes nearly impossible.

This episode is not about rushing. It’s not about panic. And it’s definitely not about fear. It’s about loving urgency—the kind that honors your desire to be a mother and respects the reality that your life is happening now, not someday, not “after one more cycle,” not when you finally feel ready.

• Why procrastination is one of the most destructive fertility habits women normalize
• How living in the past silently blocks present-day fertility success
• Why mindset work is not optional—especially if you’re trying to conceive after 40
• How to stop delaying your breakthrough and start creating a pregnant present

If you are serious about becoming a mother—and you’re done letting fear, hesitation, and old stories run the show—this episode will call you forward.

Because when it comes to your fertility journey, the time is now.

Are you ready for your miracle? Start your fertility success story.

Fertility mindset and time affect every decision you make on the journey—from whether you take action or procrastinate, to how much stress your body carries daily. A scarcity-based relationship with time creates chronic stress, fear, and hesitation, all of which can interfere with fertility outcomes.

Procrastination delays necessary changes in mindset, lifestyle, or medical care. When women put off addressing what they know needs attention, they often spend years repeating the same cycles without results—delaying breakthroughs that could happen much sooner.

It’s not about rushing—it’s about honesty. Fertility after 40 requires a different level of intention and engagement. Slow rolling decisions out of fear or avoidance can cost valuable time, while conscious, aligned action supports better outcomes.

Living in the past—replaying losses, failures, or judgments—keeps the nervous system stuck in stress and limits present-day decision making. Fertility happens in the present body, not in past experiences or future fears.

Yes. Mindset influences stress levels, emotional regulation, behavior patterns, and consistency. Many women see dramatic shifts in results when mindset work is addressed alongside physical and medical approaches.

Ready to think like the women who beat the odds and become the miracle mamas everyone else calls “lucky”?

• Apply for my curated, invitation-only Fearlessly Fertile Method® experience here: 👉 Submit your application
• If you’re in or approaching your Two Week Wait, get the Luxuriously Low-Stress Two Week Wait self-study course and give those 14-ish days a calm, confident structure.

In this first episode in the Fertile AF 3-part series, we are going to slap around the subject of “nice” in the context of this journey. I see far too many women handing over their power to being “nice” and that shit’s gotta stop…particularly if you are serious about beating the odds. When it comes […]

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Most people look at statistics when trying to determine their chances of getting and staying pregnant. Time and again, my ladies and I have proven that the stats aren’t the real indicator of your chances of success or…ultimate failure. I’m going to share the true, foolproof way of predicting whether you will eventually succeed or […]

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Your reaction to pregnancy announcements from friends, family, co-workers and everyone else is telling. Learn what your reaction says about you, what you actually believe is possible for YOU, and your deepest hidden sabotage patterns. This sh*t is eye opening! Want to learn more? Start your fertility success story.

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