Brazil's President-elect Lula da Silva's narrow win over Jair Bolsonaro (who has yet to concede) comes as his country recovers from its worst recession ever, high inflation, the fallout from the pandemic, and an ongoing education crisis. Joining Julia to discuss the immense challenges Lula faces is Alberto Ramos, the head of Latin America Economic Research at Goldman Sachs.

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