The Politics' Rachel Withers joins Amy to talk federal politics, including the latest developments on the Voice referendum campaign. Micheline Lee delves into the issues raised in her Quarterly Essay, Lifeboat: Disability, Humanity and the NDIS. Micheline explains that the NDIS, for all its good intentions, has not understood people with disabilities well enough. While government thought the market could do its job, a caring society cannot be outsourced. Dr Adrian Marshall of the Grassy Plains Network and North West Alliance talks about Geelong's native grasslands and their endangered inhabitants, which are under threat from land development and urban expansion. Adrian will detail the Council's Geelong Strategic Assessment and its impacts on grasslands, Growling Grass Frogs, Striped Legless Lizards, and Golden Sun Moths. Submissions are due 5pm on Monday 25 September 2023.