The latest figures from the Ontario College of Family Physicians indicate that there are now 2.5 million people in the province who don't have a family doctor. The college says that's an increase of more than 160,000 people since the last count was released early in 2024. Why does this appear to be going in the wrong direction and what can be done to try to change the trend? 980 CFPL's Mike Stubbs sits down with the president-elect of the OCFP, Dr. Jobin Varughese to try to find out.