On today's episode, Nate speaks with author Matt Gallagher (@MattGallagher0) about his new novel 'Empire City'. Matt's an Army veteran of the war in Iraq and has also written two other books, the novel Youngblood and the memoir Kaboom: Embracing the Suck in a Savage Little War. We talk about incrementalism versus radicalism, how to write dystopian fiction when we already live in a dystopia, and much more.

You can buy Empire City (and support local bookstores) here: https://bookshop.org/books/empire-city/9781501177798

This week's bonus is a DadChat featuring Nate and Francis. It's available at the $1 tier here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/38335982

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