Plans unraveled, but the heart of our work held steady. We set out to share the origin story behind “the caring death doula” for a milestone 50th episode and ran into tech roadblocks—so we did what grief teaches best: we stayed present. This conversation leans into honesty, gratitude, and the quiet courage it takes to feel what you feel without apology.

Together, we name the messy middle of loss—anger at choices a loved one made, numbness that flattens the day, the waves that crash when you least expect them. There are no stages to pass, no finish line to cross. Grief is love learning a new shape, and that learning is allowed to be imperfect.

We also discussed the importance of raising our children to see death as part of life; of teaching them to understand the fragility of life. 

If you’ve been with us from the start or you’re pressing play for the first time, you’ll find permission here—permission to feel, to pause, and to come back when you’re ready.

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