In this episode, the boys are joined by Lucy Biggers. Lucy is a journalist and content creator currently serving as the Head of Social Media for The Free Press. In her mid-20s, Lucy was an influential climate activist whose work for outlets like “NowThis” helped popularize apocalyptic narratives about global warming and bring the Standing Rock protests to national attention.

During COVID, Lucy began to seriously doubt the validity of the cause she was fighting for. She put her activism on hold and reassessed many of the things she believed about climate change. Last May, Lucy started posting again—only this time it was to debunk many of the claims she had once fervently communicated to the world.

Listen to this episode if you want to learn why Lucy isn’t even remotely concerned about CO₂ emissions, find out what Greta Thunberg is like in person, hear Lucy’s impression of a plant stoma, and much more!

You can follow Lucy on Instagram, X, and TikTok

Mentioned in this episode:

• Apocalypse Never - Michael Shellenberger
• Unsettled - Steven E. Koonin
• The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels  - Alex Epstein
• Fossil Future - Alex Epstein
• Factfullness - Hans Rosling 
• The Long Summer - Brian Fagan
• Irrational Fear - Dr. Matthew Wielicki's Substack

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