In this episode of the Obi One Podcast, John Obi Mikel sits down with a young manager destined for the very top: his former Chelsea team-mate Filipe Luís.

In this exclusive, in-depth conversation, Filipe Luís discusses life as Flamengo boss, his managerial traits and why he treats everyone differently in the dressing room.

He also outlines why Diego Simeone has had the biggest impact on his footballing life, gives a detailed tactical breakdown of how his side beat Chelsea in the FIFA Club World Cup and recalls the time José Mourinho said he was “shit”.

Hear from a manager destined to managing one of Europe’s biggest clubs sooner rather than later. John Obi Mikel in conversation with Filipe Luís.

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