He's coached fighters for 36 years, from Belgium to Oslo to Thailand — and unless you know fighters personally, you've never heard his name. Carl is the dark horse of fight coaching: the man they call "Mister Basics," who trains a friend in a wheelchair every week, rebuilt well-known MMA fighters from the ground up, and comes home from pad work needing ice packs.
We talk about coaching people with Parkinson's, why kids teach a coach more than adults ever will, what 13 trips to Thailand taught him about respect, the spaghetti moment that made him rethink family sacrifice, and the one rule he gives every fighter: if I want it more than you do, find another coach.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro — the dark horse of coaches
0:26 The fighter in a wheelchair
9:00 "Hit me now, love me later" — hard pad work
11:10 Porcelain fighters
12:02 How it started — jujitsu at six
14:20 A father figure with pads
16:07 The first time he held pads
17:26 "Mister Basics" — foundation first
18:54 From kids class to adult class
21:29 Why kids teach a coach more
23:26 Biomechanics & bad coaching
24:26 Rebuilding a well-known fighter
25:51 Thailand — what 13 trips taught him
29:32 Tourist gyms vs. family gyms
30:49 Norway & the spaghetti story
43:33 When a fighter outgrows you — Anthony Joshua
49:22 Training out of a dark space
55:56 GSP, Gordon Ryan & fighter personalities
57:10 "You have to want it" — the Tyson rule
59:17 Everybody is a fighter