Don't Start Listening Here! A filler episode that directly goes against the NNN ethos. Instead of creating a fully middle podcast devoid of any fluff, in this episode KG and MD completely embrace the fluff, have a deep discussion on the various types of fluff, interview a spectacularly uninteresting guest, have words on the tip of their tongues, and decide whether to reveal something, all before taking some much needed time off for silent contemplation.

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Opening Music (Arranged, Produced, Mixed and Salted) by Jonathan Wesley at www.jonathanwesleymusic.com