Dan Rochon has had zero broke months since 2008 because he documented what actually works and built a repeatable system.

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, we explore the self-coaching model Dan teaches in his new book "Teach to Sell" (out now!). It's a psychology-based framework for reprogramming your subconscious so your brain works for you instead of against you.

We’ll also talk about the villain that holds most salespeople back (spoiler: it's "not good enough"), how to break the cycle when you're afraid, and what happens when you stop making up stories about what people can't afford or won't accept.

Dan got licensed in 2007, right into the housing crash. He's weathered epidemics, economic swings, and every kind of market condition. He's living proof that your circumstances don't determine your income. Your belief system and your actions do.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• The Self-Coaching Model: How circumstance, thought, feeling, action, and result form a closed loop you can actually break
• The 5 Steps That Define Your Job as a Sales Professional (and why most people miss this entirely)
• How to reprogram your subconscious through meditation, affirmations, visualizations, and the right relationships
• The handwashing hack that will change how aware you are of your thoughts (do this 5-7 times daily)
• Why belief comes before action, and how to build it without the rah-rah nonsense
• How to distinguish between what you can control and what you can't (and where most people waste energy)
• The real story behind his daughter's reaction when he told her about the divorce (and what it taught him about fear)
• Lead generation as conversation, not pressure
• The 90-120 day sales cycle and why it changes everything about consistency

Bio:

Dan Rochon is a nationally recognized sales coach, author, and keynote speaker who helps entrepreneurs and sales professionals finally escape the stress of inconsistent income.  With a mission to help people achieve their full potential, Dan has coached thousands to shift from chasing clients to confidently leading them—without pressure, gimmicks, or burnout.

He created the Teach to Sell methodology after six months without a single sale, then built a system that’s allowed him to achieve No Broke Months since 2008.  His approach combines real-world experience with deep expertise in neuro-linguistic communication and human behavior. Dan speaks regularly on the psychology of influence, personal transformation, and how to build trust that converts. His practical, story-driven method helps readers overcome self-doubt, communicate confidently, and build businesses that serve their lives—not consume them.

If you’ve ever questioned your worth or felt stuck in sales, this book—and Dan—will help you rewrite that story for good.

Teach to Sell Book: https://www.teachtosellbook.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danrochon/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danrochonx/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086498082316#

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What happens when a shy kid who never felt like he fit in decides to build the kind of community he always wished existed?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, Ben Albert, Founder of Grow Getters Only & Host of Real Business Connections Podcast, shares how losing his job during the pandemic led him to build an entire business around meaningful conversations, community, and trust.

We’ll explore why traditional networking feels uncomfortable for so many people, how meaningful conversations create opportunities, the hidden cost of chasing social media validation, and why authenticity cannot be manufactured.

If you've ever felt overlooked, underestimated, or unsure how to put yourself out there, this conversation offers a refreshing reminder that building influence starts with being fully yourself.

In This Episode:

• Why "Grow Getters Only" Exists
• The Power of Opening Prompts
• How Ben Accidentally Became a Marketer 
• Community Isn't Aspirational, It's Personal
• The Five Conversations a Day Strategy
• LinkedIn Detox Realness
• Alex Hormozi Isn't Your Blueprint
• How to Network Without Being Creepy Ben
• Authenticity Can't Be Faked (No Matter How Hard You Try)
• Storytelling Frameworks vs. Being Yourself 
• Why AI Isn't Replacing You (But Someone Better at AI Might)
• Tools Ben Actually Uses
• The Real Business Connections Origin

Connect with Ben:

Ben Albert is the founder of Grow Getters Only, owner of Balbert Marketing, and host of the internationally recognized Real Business Connections podcast. After being furloughed during the pandemic, Ben rebuilt his career by focusing on one thing: meaningful relationships. Today, he helps entrepreneurs grow through community, conversation, and authentic connection. Through his podcast, events, and marketing work, Ben has become a trusted voice on networking, personal branding, and relationship-driven business growth.

Website: https://realbusinessconnections.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realbenalbert/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realbusinessconnections

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realbenalbert

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@realbusinessconnections

Tags: Entrepreneurship, Business Growth, Personal Branding, Networking, Community Building, Leadership, Relationship Marketing, Visibility, Marketing, Business Strategy, Thought Leadership, Professional Development, Small Business, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Women in Business, Human Connection, Authentic Leadership, Personal Growth, Business Relationships, Visibility Strategy

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There comes a point in business where working harder stops working.

The strategies that got you to your first clients won't necessarily get you to your next level of growth. At some point, every founder has to decide whether they're building a business or simply creating a more demanding job for themselves.

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, we welcome business strategist, leadership consultant, and She's That Founder podcast host Dawn Andrews for an honest conversation about why the overnight success story is a myth.

We’ll talk about delegation, communication, visibility, leadership, AI, mindset, and the identity shifts that happen as your business grows.

Dawn shares lessons from 24 years in business, including what she's learned through multiple reinventions, unexpected opportunities, hard-earned growth, and helping founders break free from the habits that keep them stuck in the day-to-day.

In This Episode:

• The difference between a solopreneur, founder, and CEO
• Why communication is often the real bottleneck in a growing business
• How AI can help reduce mental load without replacing human judgment
• What women get wrong about visibility and perfection
• Why resilience matters more than confidence
• The advice that stopped us both in our tracks: "There's always a ticket."

If you're building something meaningful and wondering what the next version of leadership looks like, this episode is for you.

Bio:

Dawn Andrews is a business strategist, leadership consultant, and founder of Free Range Thinking. For 24 years, she has helped founders and executives develop the leadership skills needed to grow thriving businesses, build stronger teams, and step fully into the CEO role.

Her clients include leaders in entertainment, media, and mission-driven organizations whose work has shaped culture, influenced change, and earned some of the industry's highest honors. Dawn is also the host of the She's That Founder podcast and the creator of the Female Leadership Accelerator, where she helps women communicate with confidence, lead effectively, and make a bigger impact.

Join her AI for Founder's free LinkedIn group:

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14693101

Website: https://dawnandrews.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/freerangethinking/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freerangethinking/

Tags: Founder mindset, women entrepreneurs, women in business, CEO mindset, founder to CEO, leadership development, business growth strategies, scaling a business, business systems, delegation for entrepreneurs, founder bottleneck, women founders, entrepreneurship podcast, artificial intelligence for business, AI for founders, women leadership, visibility strategy, personal branding, business coaching, entrepreneur mindset, leadership skills, female CEO, founder journey, business scaling, thought leadership, productivity systems, business operations, women-owned business, mindset for success, entrepreneurial leadership

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What is conscious leadership?

Conscious leadership is the practice of leading with self-awareness, integrity, emotional intelligence, and alignment between your values and actions. Rather than leading through fear, control, or external validation, conscious leaders make decisions from a place of purpose, authenticity, and service.

In this episode of Finally Seen™, scientist, entrepreneur, author, and NutriSelect AI founder Dr. Bill Clark shares how conscious leadership has shaped both his personal and professional journey. Drawing from nearly three decades of scientific research, lived experience, and the lessons behind his upcoming book, The Way of the Conscious Leader: Where Spirit Meets Science, he explains why leadership begins with inner awareness before it ever influences others.

If you've ever questioned your next step, felt disconnected from your purpose, or wondered how to lead with greater confidence and authenticity, this conversation will challenge what you believe about success and expand what's possible.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• What conscious leadership actually means
• Why integrity is more than a character trait and can be viewed as a frequency
• How inspired action differs from forced action
• The relationship between science, spirituality, and leadership
• Why coherence creates stronger teams and cultures
• How authenticity impacts influence and trust
• What personal transformation teaches us about leadership
• How to recognize alignment in business and life

Bio:

Dr. Bill Clark is a scientist, entrepreneur, author, and founder of NutriSelect.ai, an AI-powered platform bringing greater transparency and scientific rigor to the wellness and supplement industry. With nearly 30 years of experience in natural products research, clinical development, and health innovation, he has led the development of dozens of products generating more than $500 million in cumulative sales.

As a thought leader in the field of science, consciousness, and human potential, Dr. Clark explores how integrity, coherence, and inspired action shape transformational leadership. He is the author of The Way of the Conscious Leader: Where Spirit Meets Science and co-host of the podcasts Beyond Limits: Where Spirit Meets Science and The Bioactive Nexus.

Website: https://drbillclark.life/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drbillclark.life/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbillclark/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drbillclark

Tags: conscious leadership, leadership development, inspired action, integrity in leadership, leadership mindset, emotional intelligence, personal growth, self-awareness, leadership coaching, conscious business, spiritual leadership, science and spirituality, coherence, leadership principles, entrepreneur mindset, business leadership, transformational leadership, thought leadership, personal transformation, resilience, authenticity, intuition in business, human potential, leadership podcast, women in business, visibility, mindset,  conscious entrepreneurship, alignment,

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Why do smart, capable people stay stuck even when they know exactly what to do?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, join us for a bold and deeply honest conversation as we sit down with author and “Personal Drill Sergeant” Mark A. Dulaney to unpack the hidden fears, self-imposed limitations, and emotional protection mechanisms that keep people from creating the life they actually want.

We’ll explore the psychology behind excuses, perfectionism, victim mentality, fear of judgment, and why so many people negotiate with themselves instead of taking aligned action. Mark shares lessons from surviving cancer, rebuilding his life at 65, and launching the Eliminating Excuses movement with virtually no money, proving that courage matters more than perfect circumstances.

This episode is for ambitious women, leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone ready to stop playing small and finally move forward with clarity, confidence, and personal responsibility.

In This Episode:

• What excuses really are and why they’re rooted in fear
• The danger of self-imposed limitations
• Why perfectionism is often disguised procrastination
• How victim mentality keeps people stuck
• The role parents play in modeling possibility or limitation
• Why execution matters more than information
• The connection between personal responsibility and freedom
• How to start before you feel fully ready

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Mark A. Dulaney is the author of Eliminating Excuses, creator of the Eliminating Excuses movement, and host of the Eliminating Excuses podcast. Known as “The Personal Drill Sergeant,” Mark helps people identify and eliminate the fears, self-imposed limitations, and excuses keeping them from creating the life they truly want. After overcoming cancer and rebuilding his life in his 60s, Mark now inspires audiences with his direct, practical approach to personal responsibility, discipline, mindset, and execution.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/markdulaney

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark_thm_dulaney/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.dulaney.54/

Skool: eliminateexcuses.com/

Podcast: podcast.eliminateexcuses.com/

Book: eliminatingexcuses.me/

Tags: eliminating excuses, self-sabotage, overcoming fear, perfectionism, personal growth podcast, women empowerment podcast, accountability mindset, discipline and success, personal responsibility, victim mentality, mindset shifts, confidence building, visibility mindset, entrepreneurship mindset, emotional resilience, overcoming procrastination, self-imposed limitations, leadership mindset, motivational podcast, finally seen podcast, personal development, business mindset, growth mindset

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What if the problem isn’t you, but the environment you’ve been trying to succeed in?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, we welcome author, speaker, and leadership expert Ann Kelley to unpack the invisible rules that shape how we show up at work, in relationships, and in our own lives. 

Ann introduces the concept behind her book, Roof Rules, the idea that every space operates under its own set of expectations, and misalignment doesn’t mean you’re broken; it means you may be under the wrong roof. This conversation dives into identity, personal branding, boundaries, and the difference between adapting and erasing yourself.

If you’ve ever questioned your worth, muted your voice, or felt like you had to shrink to succeed, this episode will help you see what’s really going on and how to navigate it with clarity and confidence.

In This Episode:

• Meet Ann Kelley and the Origin of “Roof Rules”
• The Childhood Moment That Changed Everything
• Invisible Rules in Work, Culture, and Identity
• I’m Broken” vs. Being in the Wrong Environment
• How Childhood Beliefs Shape Adult Behavior
• Personal Branding, Alignment, and Core Identity
• Adaptation vs. Self-Erasure
• Setting Boundaries Without Burning Bridges
• Leadership, Team Culture, and Creating Your Own Roof
• The Power of Pause and Living in Alignment

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Ann Kelley is an author, speaker, and former corporate executive with more than twenty years of leadership experience in complex organizations. She holds an MBA and professional credentials, including CPA and CFP, along with other professional certifications that have shaped her practical approach to understanding systems, leadership, and human behavior.

Ann believes no one is ordinary. We are layered, capable, and original, even when life tries to sort us into neat categories.

Her work explores the invisible systems that shape our lives. Family, culture, workplaces, and communities quietly influence what we reach for, what we tolerate, and what we believe we are allowed to want. Drawing on both professional experience and personal insight, Ann writes about recognizing these patterns and choosing our next step with intention.

When our values align with the environment around us, decisions become clearer and forward movement feels more natural.

Through her books, Ann offers readers thoughtful frameworks and practical language for navigating the forces that shape our lives while staying true to who we are.

Website: https://belvitri.com/index.html

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ann-kelley-greville-124bb038a/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greville.ak/

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What if the real reason your business isn’t scaling… is because you’re doing too much?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, Paige Arnof-Fenn, CEO and founder of Mavens & Moguls, shares how years of high performance, constant execution, and entrepreneurial hustle led straight to burnout and how a season of personal loss forced her to completely rethink her approach to business, leadership, and success.

This conversation dives deep into the execution trap, a pattern many women entrepreneurs fall into where overworking, overdelivering, and always being “on” feels like the path to growth but actually leads to burnout, misalignment, and stalled business growth.

Paige breaks down how setting clear boundaries in business, protecting her time, and shifting from quantity to quality transformed not only her marketing strategy and client relationships but also her ability to scale sustainably.

If you’re a founder, creative, or service provider feeling stretched thin, stuck in constant output mode, or questioning how to grow without burning out, this episode will give you a new framework for sustainable success.

In This Episode:

• Meet Paige Arnof-Fenn and the origin of Mavens & Moguls
• How 9/11 unexpectedly led to a new business model
• The hustle phase and what it really costs you
• Personal loss, perspective shifts, and redefining success
• The “no jerks” policy and protecting your team culture
• Why overdelivering can hurt your business
• Scaling lessons: hiring, growth, and letting people go
• Niche positioning and building a magnetic brand
• Creating white space and setting better boundaries
• What actually matters at the end of the day

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Paige Arnof-Fenn is the founder and CEO of Mavens & Moguls, a global network of senior marketing experts helping brands grow through strategic storytelling and visibility. A former VP of Marketing at Zipcar and Inc.com, she has also held leadership roles at Launch Media and worked with global brands like Procter & Gamble and The Coca-Cola Company. Paige is a trusted advisor, board leader, and Harvard Business School MBA known for helping companies build brands that stand out and scale.

Website: https://mavensandmoguls.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paigearnoffenn/

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Who are you when the roles you’ve built your life around begin to disappear?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, join us for this powerful and deeply human conversation as we sit down with author Suzy McNamara to explore what it really means to love through loss and rebuild yourself in the aftermath.

After losing both her husband to early-onset Alzheimer’s and her sister within the same year, Suzy shares the unfiltered truth of caregiving, anticipatory grief, and the identity shift no one prepares you for.

If you’ve ever found yourself asking, who am I now? Let this conversation inspire you to become someone new, on purpose.

In this episode, we’ll explore:

• The identity shift from partner to caregiver and what gets lost along the way
• Why anticipatory grief hits differently and how it reshapes your reality
• The emotional toll of early-onset Alzheimer’s on marriage and family
• How faith can anchor you when nothing makes sense
• The power of storytelling, honesty, and community in healing
• What it really takes to rebuild after profound loss

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Suzy McNamara is an author, poet, mother of four, fundraiser, lawyer, Secular Carmelite, and widow. In 2024, she lost her husband of 37 years, Bob McNamara, to Posterior Cortical Atrophy, an aggressive form of early-onset Alzheimer’s, after caring for him for five years in their home. Months before her husband died, her sister and best friend, Elizabeth Muslin, died from Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis.

She dove into her grief and trauma to write this memoir as both a love letter to her husband and her sister, and to begin a conversation with her fellow caregivers and sisters-in-arms in the battle of loss and grief. As Suzy writes, grief is a lonely sport and building community and companionship is key to survival. Suzy writes honestly about the physical and emotional challenges of caregiving, but also celebrates the magic of love and connection with the ones she lost and the ones who walked with her during the journey of loss.

Suzy shared her lifelong love of books, movies, and music with her husband and her sister and  now finds great joy in sharing those interests with her children. She fights back the loneliness of grief by immersing herself in her sustaining faith practices and by surrounding herself with those four wonderful adult children and the community of friends that she and her husband built together. 

Website: suzymcnamara.com/

Facebook: facebook.com/suzy.mcnamara

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/suzymcnamara 

Instagram: instagram.com/mcnamara.suzy

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What happens when your own body becomes the battleground?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, we welcome author and autoimmune advocate Annie Toro Lopez for a candid conversation about resilience, healing, and learning to advocate for yourself when the medical system doesn’t always listen.

Annie was diagnosed with lupus in her twenties and later faced celiac disease during a season of deep personal loss. What followed was a powerful journey of reclaiming her health, understanding the role of food as foundational medicine, and building community for women navigating autoimmune challenges.

Listen in as we explore the emotional and physical realities of autoimmune illness, how women are often dismissed in healthcare, and why self-advocacy is one of the most powerful tools we have. 

If you've ever felt dismissed, overwhelmed by your health, or like your body is working against you, this conversation will remind you that you're not alone and that healing often begins with reclaiming your voice.

In This Episode:

• Annie’s lupus diagnosis and the long road to answers
• The reality of living with autoimmune illness
• Why women’s health issues are often dismissed
• Food as a powerful tool for healing and resilience
• Building community and connection while navigating chronic illness
• The mindset shift from surviving to advocating for yourself

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Annie Toro Lopez is an author, chef, and transformational speaker who teaches audiences how to thrive through life's challenges. She reversed lupus through visualization, nutrition, and mind/body/gut connection. Later, while navigating profound personal loss and a celiac diagnosis while competing in a national cooking competition, she proved again how mindset and food can fundamentally transform health. 

A former teacher whose students achieved top rankings, Annie authored Simply Gluten-Free: Real Ingredients for Everyday Life and founded DAWN - the Denver Area Women's Network, supporting 500+ women through life's transitions.

With 20 years of documented lupus remission and a lifetime of overcoming ‘impossible’ challenges, Annie helps audiences and community members discover that healing begins with how you speak to yourself, and that self-care is not selfish.

Website: https://www.annietorolopez.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annie-toro-lopez-a410b330/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@annietorolopez7781

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/annie.toro.lopez/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annietorolopez

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What happens when a woman who uncovers hidden fraud around the world realizes she’s been hiding her own pain?

In this week’s episode of the Finally Seen™ podcast, we welcome Beth Jones, a former global forensic investigator turned healing mentor, to unpack what it really means to heal childhood trauma while still performing at the highest level.

For more than 30 years, Beth led complex investigations across 35+ countries. As an investigator, she was sharp, strategic, respected, and high-functioning. But behind the professional polish was a 45-year survival wall built to protect her from childhood sexual abuse she had buried since age five.

A hypnotherapy session brought everything to the surface. What followed was a courageous unraveling. And ultimately, a powerful rebuilding rooted in hope, evolution, and love. Listen now and take the next step toward healing that actually transforms.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why high-achieving women often use work as an escape
• The difference between “couch therapy” and trauma therapy
• Somatic healing, emotional regulation, and stored trauma
• Letting go of shame that was never yours to carry
• Why self-love is the true foundation of every relationship

This episode is sponsored by:

Bobelo (Use code ChrissyBernal15% at checkout to get 15% off!)

Bio:

Beth Jones is a former global forensic accountant turned healing mentor, bestselling author, and founder of Empowered Survivors.

For more than 30 years, Beth investigated fraud and white-collar crime across 35+ countries, uncovering truth inside corporate ledgers while hiding her own trauma behind a professional mask. From the outside, she was successful and high-functioning. Behind the scenes, she was living in survival mode.

At age 50, a hypnotherapy session brought buried memories of childhood sexual abuse to the surface and changed the trajectory of her life. What felt like a breakdown became the beginning of a profound transformation.

Today, Beth mentors others through her HEAL Framework™ — to Hope, Evolve, And Love — guiding survivors from survival to joy, peace, and self-love. Through her book Becoming an Empowered Survivor, her podcast Let’s HEAL! with Beth Jones, and her growing television platform, she shares one powerful truth: You can heal. And you do not have to walk the journey alone.

Website: https://empoweredsurvivors.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethjoneshealingmentor/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BethJonesHEALingMentor

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bethjoneshealingmentor

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