"If I let myself be available to be happy, most of the time it does happen."

Pepe connects with Mitchell "Trash" Gray as they discuss their prison experiences, exploring their broken places & their individual relationships to happiness that developed through the journey. It's an emotional conversation at times that traverses topics from addiction to Buddhism and overall lets you see you have a choice to make when you push up against difficult moments or your own broken places. Listen to the episode to find out the choices Mitchell & Pepe made when they were standing on the edge of these places. We end with the song "Dying Red Sun" by Mitchell's band Our Own Legacy.

HIGHLIGHTS:

• Thoughts on happiness
• What led Mitchell into prison
• The painful moment Mitchell knew things had to change
• A different perspective on being a broken person
• Pepe's painful moment when he broke open in prison
• A convicted murderer offers a shoulder to cry on
• Mitchell cries at a punk show & Pepe cries at a ska show
• Where do you most belong?
• The one thing Mitchell would want you to take away from this conversation

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