In our world today, we need to rebrand hope. The era of everything in our lives fitting neatly in a box is done. That world is over. We need hope—but we need a hope that is robust enough to speak to real life.  Author and pastor Benjamin Windle talks with Ed Stetzer about how flourishing does not come from a life devoid of loneliness, trauma, and anxiety. It's one lived with hope engineered for adversity.

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