Gerald Rivers is a professional football player (formerly of the NFL, currently of the XFL), and serves in business development for Bulow Jewelers. We talk jewelry, football, career transitions, and a ton more on his full episode that drops on Wednesday, December 4.

But first, Gerald shares with me his first job digging fence post holes in the deathly heat of the Georgia summer for his uncle. Somehow we end up talking about water polo, too. Enjoy!