Robin Kanatzar is this episode’s guest. Robin is a former industrial engineer who has been developing apps for iOS and Android since 2016, focusing on accessibility. She also gives talks on the subject, educating developers on how to make their apps more accessible, as well as publishing a weekly newsletter on the subject, titled ‘Appt News’.

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In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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• How to Navigate your iPhone or iPad with VoiceOver - YouTube
• This is how Apple Vision Pro works with VoiceOver for a blind geek - YouTube
• Apple announces new accessibility features, including Eye Tracking - Press Release
• W3C Mobile Accessibility Task Force
• iOS 26 “Liquid Glass” Design Is A Low Vision Nightmare - The Blind Life on YouTube (made during the beta period)
• European accessibility act
• Robin Kanatzar website.
• Appt Newsletter
• Robin Kanatzar on Mastodon
• Robin Kanatzar on LinkedIn
• Robin Kanatzar on Medium
• Robin Kanatzar on YouTube

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• Robin’s ‘First’: Panda Guide on the EDF website.

Panda Guide demo on YouTube (in French)

• Robin’s ‘Last’: Apple Vision Pro
• Robin’s ‘Everything’: Garmin Smart Watches
• 'Something’: Microsoft Zune on Wikipedia

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Andrew Fyfe is a musician originating from Scotland. After starting out gigging in bands and crossing paths with the likes of Biffy Clyro and Lewis Capaldi, Andrew started learning about artificial intelligence. Now living in Japan, Andrew is the CTO and co-founder of Neutone, a company introducing AI to the music-making process, aiming to do so in a way that respects artists and doesn’t replace creativity.

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In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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Official Neutone website.

Neutone Blog.

Neutone on Instagram.

Neutone on TikTok.

Neutone on YouTube.

’Introduction to Tone Morphing with Neutone Morpho’. - YouTube

Andrew on X.

Andrew on LinkedIn.

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Andrew’s ‘First’: The Electric Guitar on Wikipedia

Andrew’s ‘Last’: BEAM by Lunacy Audio

Andrew’s ‘Everything’: VoxAC30 handwired

'Something’: The JooJoo Tablet

Wired Review of the JooJoo Tablet

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This time, we’re joined by Esther Huybreghts. Esther is the Co-founder and Chief Creative Officer for Pok Pok, producers of the multi-award-winning app, PokPok Playground. Since the app launched in 2021, it’s won an App Store award, an Apple Design award, and many other commendations. Pok Pok was also recently included on TIME's list of the 100 Most Influential Companies of 2025. Pok Pok is a really special app, and Esther talked about its inception, plans for the future, and staying strong against negative – and sometimes hateful – feedback.

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In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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Snowman Games

Alto’s Odyssey on the App Store and Apple Arcade

Pok Pok Official Site

Pok Pok on the App Store

Pok Pok — Calm Learning Videos for Kids on YouTube

Pok Pok wins an Apple Design Award in 2021

Time’s 100 Most Influential Companies 2025: Pok Pok

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• Esther’s ‘First’ pick: FUJIFILM Digital Q1
• Esther’s ‘Last’ pick: Kobo
• Esther’s‘ Everything’ pick: Apple iPad Pro on Wikipedia
• 'Something’: Builder.ai - “How This A.I. Company Collapsed Amid Silicon Valley’s Biggest Boom” - The New York Times(Gift Article)

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This time, it’s the Emmy-award-winning writer David X Cohen. David started writing on Beavis and Butthead in the early 90s before joining The Simpsons, where he was responsible for many well-known episodes like Lisa the Vegetarian, The Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie Show, and Homer3. Then, in 1999, with Simpsons creator Matt Groening, David co-developed Futurama, which recently dropped its 13th season on Hulu and Disney+.

But David’s history is not just in television. He worked in the robotics lab while attending Harvard, studied theoretical computer science, and has a deep history with technology all the way back to the early days of home computers. As you can expect there was a lot for us to talk about.

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In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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David on Wikipedia

• Alan Yuille on Wikipedia
• Ken Keeler on Wikipedia
• Homer3 on YouTube
• George Meyer on Wikipedia

Futurama opening on YouTube

'Futurama - Welcome to the World of Tomorrow’ BTS on YouTube

Futurama References on The Infosphere:

• The Speed of Light
• The Prisoner of Benda and its theorem
• The Impossible Stream
• eyePhone
• Hedonismbot
• Roberto
• Enema-bot
• Acting Unit 0.8
• Head Jars

Shut Up and Take My Money on Know Your Meme

Victor Wembanyama on Wikipedia

‘How Hollywood writers triumphed over AI – and why it matters’ - The Guardian

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• David’s ‘First’ pick: Arcade Games: Playthroughs on YouTube -  Berzerk, Space Guerrilla, Battle Zone, Qix, Gorf.
• David’s ‘Last’ pick: Waymo
• David’s ‘Everything’ pick: Apple II on Wikipedia
• Apple II Reference Manual PDF
• 'Something’: TwitterPeek on Museum of Failure

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This time we’re talking with Michael Flarup. Michael is many things: the head of a game studio, a speaker at Adobe Max, an author, and more. But most of all, Michael is a designer. He’s most well-known for his decades of work as an icon designer on some of the most beloved apps on iOS and macOS under his Pixel Resort banner. He’s released two books on the history of the art form: first around iOS, then focusing on macOS. Now he runs a game studio, Northplay, where they’re hard at work on their next game, Dinolords!

First, Last, Everything is a podcast exploring people’s personal relationships with technology. In each episode, host Jonathan Reed gets to know a guest through three pieces of tech: their first inspiration, their last obsession, and the one that meant everything to them. From some software or a computer to a weird gadget or a first camera. Pretty much anything goes.

In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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• Pixel Resort.
• Northplay.
• Buy The iOS Icon Book and The macOS Icon Book.
• Sign up for Michael’s newsletter.
• Buy Michael’s design tools and icons.

• Michael on Dribble.
• Michael on YouTube.
• Michael on Instagram.
• Michael on LinkedIn.
• Michael on X.
• Michael on Mastodon.

• Download Conduct This!
• Dinolords website.
• Wishlist Dinolords on Steam

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• Michael’s ‘First’ pick: Amiga 2000
• Michael’s ‘Last’ pick: Apple Vision Pro
• Michael’s ‘Everything’ pick: Adobe Photoshop on Wikipedia
• 'Something’: ‘The First Digital Camera Was the Size of a Toaster’ - IEEE Spectrum
• Interview with creator Steve Sasson: Linda Hall Library on YouTube

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In this premiere episode, YouTuber Tom Hitchins, aka Byte Review, discusses his creative life that led to the creation of one of the most aesthetically pleasing tech channels on the site. From teaching Photoshop at a college to a lifelong love of Nintendo and Japanese design and entertainment, Tom’s passion for technology touches every aspect of his life.

First, Last, Everything is a podcast exploring people’s personal relationships with technology. In each episode, host Jonathan Reed gets to know a guest through three pieces of tech: their first inspiration, their last obsession, and the one that meant everything to them. From some software or a computer to a weird gadget or a first camera. Pretty much anything goes.

In addition, each episode features the ‘Something’ segment, a small dive into the past to talk about a piece of technology that you may not have heard of. Weird, ahead of its time, an abject failure or success, whatever it was, it was certainly… something.

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• Byte Review on YouTube.
• Byte Review on Instagram.
• Byte Review on TikTok.

• First Byte Review Video - Lumia 435 Review
• Why I Left Teaching During COVID-19
• Apple REBUILT my Desk Setup and Office with the M3 MacBook Air!

• Kiroku Studio.
• Kiroku Studio on Instagram.
• Kiroku Radio.

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• Tom’s ‘First’ pick: Game Boy Advance SP
• Tom’s ‘Last’ pick: DJI Osmo Pocket 3
• Tom’s ‘Everything’ pick: BioShock
• 'Something’: the Buick Riviera Graphic Control Centre: MotorWeek | Retro Review: 1986 Buick Century T-Type & Riviera CRT

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