Season 2, Episode 18
Guests:
Courtney Hurley OLY — Three-time Olympian (team bronze), Head Coach, Duke City Fencing; program lead at Menaul School
Chris Ferrara — Assistant Head of School & Upper School Director, Menaul School (Albuquerque, NM)
What we cover
Courtney’s transition from Olympian to coach: passing on elite habits, culture-building, and motivation
The liberal-arts lens (Chris): teaching how to think, not what to think; “high challenge, high support” academics
Why daily, in-school training matters: Menaul’s 70–85 minute fencing block every day, plus after-school lessons and club bouting
Time management that works: block schedules, LMS support on travel days, concrete checkpoints from advisors/homeroom
The parent role: authoritative (not authoritarian); building habits and internal drive without a pressure cooker
Competition as fuel: why early meets accelerate learning and buy-in
Building a regional pipeline: growing Albuquerque’s fencing scene—and why a smaller state can be a strategic advantage
The three-weapon vision: adding dedicated foil/saber coaches, strength training, and an NCAA-style structure
Scholar-athlete outcomes: how varsity-level sport correlates with college success—and how fencing fits college admissions
Links
Learn more about Menaul School’s fencing program (with Duke City Fencing):
https://www.menaulschool.org/fencing-find-your-edge/
Timestamps
0:00 — Two perspectives, one goal: student-athletes who thrive
1:17 — Courtney: fencing was “who I am”—why coaching was the natural next step
2:30 — Chris: the liberal-arts case for scholar-athletes (mind–body–spirit)
4:57 — Using fencing strategically in college planning
5:24 — Courtney’s scholar-athlete path: school support + travel reality
7:21 — Western travel culture & flexible academics (LMS on the road)
8:36 — Teaching time management: high challenge, high support
10:16 — Coach’s role: priorities, buy-in, and aligning goals
11:30 — A week in the life: daily fencing block (70–85 min), block classes, after-school lessons
14:55 — Culture shift in ABQ: from hobby to competitive
16:18 — Why daily training compresses learning curves
17:12 — The three-to-five-year plan: three weapons, S&C, university-style structure
18:26 — Why athletics belong in school: GPA + varsity sport = college success
20:45 — Life skills from fencing: perseverance, interviews, careers
22:09 — The parent balance: building habits & ownership
26:26 — Making fencing the best part of the day (present-moment focus)
27:55 — What Courtney gets from coaching: a new challenge, new results
30:07 — Fit questions for families considering Menaul
33:00 — Why boarding + fencing can unlock opportunity
34:51 — Putting Albuquerque on the map—competitively
36:36 — A small-state advantage in college admissions
Quotable
“You’re a club before you’re a team—culture keeps kids showing up. But daily reps inside the school day? That’s what accelerates progress.” — Courtney Hurley
“The #1 predictor of college success is GPA; the #2 is participation in varsity-level sports.” — Chris Ferrara
Call to action
Curious about the school-day fencing model? Explore Menaul’s program and how it pairs with Duke City Fencing: https://www.menaulschool.org/fencing-find-your-edge/
Credits
Host: Bryan Wendell • Guests: Courtney Hurley OLY & Chris Ferrara