Norman and Trace talk about fathers ... Trace getting her musical talent from her Dad, Norman getting finance for Flame from his Dad ... and Norman takes this opportunity on the day the death of Prince Philip was announced to add a tribute to Prince Philip in his role as the Royal Father.

Trace introduces Solfeggio tones and the key of David and Norman digs into the technical and musical detail with a reference to www.wholetones.com.

Norman talks to Vic Edwards about his memories of worling with Luis Pilau, and then provides a resume of Luis's life. Be challenged.