In 2019, IT-säkerhetspodden, another podcast I participate in met with legendary hacker "Mafiaboy". I and Mattias Jadesköld got to speak with Michael Calce, which is his real name. His misdeeds are now so old, they're now properly into retro territory. In this hour we tell the story of him and how he brought down Amazon, CNN and eBay. All mixed in with great tracker music.