Flawed Theology

In today's episode, Phil and Susie delve into some of the early childhood objections that Susie had to Christianity.  We will discuss the objections, how Christians might respond to these objections, and how we view these objections now as adults who've left the faith.  Asking these questions and exploring these objections would be viewed a heresy in our previous lives, so we named this episode "The One with the Heretical Objections" to poke the idea of heresy in the eye a bit, since the real heresy is Christianity.  

Passage mentioned by Susie about "shriveled" hands: https://biblia.com/bible/rsv/leviticus/21/16-23  (hebrew word used is sheber, meaning a breaking, fracture, crushing, breach, crash).  "Shriveled" may not be the best way to describe this, but that's how Susie interpreted and remembered this passage due to personal experience :)

Phil and Susie embark on a new journey with our first guests ever on the show! April Ajoy & Beecher Reuning are an amazing married duo who graciously agreed to join us today to talk about their marriage and how they navigated the discovery that Beecher was trans non-binary and how that made their marriage stronger, how purity culture affected their lives both individually and together, and about the deconstruction of their evangelical beliefs and where that's led and is leading. 

In this episode, Phil and Susie continue their conversation about the "inerrancy" of Scripture and look to expose the errors by pointing out scientific and historical inaccuracies in the text.  

UPDATE:  Additional Notes and Clarifications for some topics that we discussed in this episode:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O_PI3FkZQPPakIlWdSllckM5bLSnSlhKAWOnX7lYDAw/edit?usp=sharing 

Phil's Blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/  

Susie's Blog: https://www.flawedtheology.com/  

Music: "Childish Prank" by Lemon Music Studio

Show Notes/ Resources

https://dinosaurpictures.org/ancient-earth#500 

https://www.geomorphology.org.uk/sites/default/files/geom_tech_chapters/4.2.10_CosmogenicNuclideAnalysis.pdf 

Gutsick gibbon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0tikAqD99M&t=1710s  

List of impact caters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth 

Viced Rhino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fLA-gfK6CQ 

Book of Daniel: Darius the Mede https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Mede 

Book of Daniel: Nabonidus vs Nebuchadnezzar https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/09/nebuchadnezzar-or-nabonidus-mistaken-identities-in-the-book-of-daniel?lang=eng 

Gerasa vs Gadara: https://biblicalhistoricalcontext.com/gospels/gerasa-gadara-gergesa-from-where-did-the-pigs-stampede/ 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation  

The Dossier of Reason: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f6ZewV_Ro5HLixACGE_wgJrnlFNVKVxTfuVALqARNEs/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1#  

Circular reasoning for the Pyramid of Giza: https://answersingenesis.org/archaeology/ancient-egypt/were-the-pyramids-built-before-the-flood/ 

https://www.news24.com/News24/The-Problem-of-the-Bible-Inaccuracies-contradictions-fallacies-scientific-issues-and-more-20120517 

Today Phil and Susie will be talking about the claim that the Bible is inerrant, and how we can use the Bible itself to disprove that claim.  We are gonna split this up into a 2 part episode because there’s so much to cover so we want to be able to really dig into this topic because it’s a fun one! Today’s episode will focus on what inerrancy is, a little history of how we got the modern day Bible, especially the NT,  look into some various types of contradictions that are rampant throughout the text and then what a failure of inerrancy would really mean for Christianity.

Phil's Blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/ 

Susie's Blog: https://www.flawedtheology.com/ 

Show Notes/ Resources

https://www.etsjets.org/files/documents/Chicago_Statement.pdf 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f6ZewV_Ro5HLixACGE_wgJrnlFNVKVxTfuVALqARNEs/preview?hl=en_US&pli=1# 

https://www.news24.com/News24/The-Problem-of-the-Bible-Inaccuracies-contradictions-fallacies-scientific-issues-and-more-20120517 

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAtheism/comments/2v36v9/in_response_to_the_pastor_looking_for_honest/

https://bibleinspectors.com/posts/2018/2/16/how-many-horsemen-did-david-capture 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJgWvEeTFgY&feature=youtu.be 

YouTube channels to check out: Aron Ra, Gutsick Gibbon, Dapper Dino, Creationist Dan

Episode Music

Intro: One Fine Day from Podcast.co "Keep Calm and Podcast On" 

Interludes: Childish Prank by lemonmusicstudio

In today’s episode, we wanted to tell a little more of our stories, but from a different angle.  We come from very different faith backgrounds and so we wanted to compare and contrast the different time periods in our lives and what our mindsets were during these times and talk about how even though our journeys were very different, we both arrived at the same place. We hope this will be an enlightening conversation between the two of us as we “interview” each other about our journeys away from faith and religion.

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Music: "The Beauty of Authenticity" by One Man Book

Susie's Blog:  https://www.flawedtheology.com/

Phil's Blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/ 

TW/CW: Child indoctrination, child slavery, child abuse

Phil and Susie discuss how exposing children to Christianity as a mandatory belief system is indoctrination and has lasting effects on child development, character development, personality development, and can lead to extreme behaviors and lifelong consequences.  

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Susie's Blog: https://www.flawedtheology.com/ 

Phil's Blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/ 

Show Notes:

Music: "The Beauty of Authenticity" by One Man Book

References:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/cogs.12138

https://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/humphrey/amnesty.html

https://www.scholastic.com/parents/family-life/social-emotional-learning/development-milestones/age-reason.html 

https://www.gty.org/library/Articles/A264/The-Age-of-Accountability 

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-qa/what-the-bible-says-about-the-age-of-accountability/ 

https://drsteveeichel.com/about-cults

https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/2021/05/ 

https://www.flawedtheology.com/2021/11/childhood-indoctrination-creating.html

In this episode, Phil and Susie examine and discuss the idea of biases, logical fallacies, and the difference between science and pseudoscience.

Show Notes:

Avenue Q clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM 

Ken Ham/ Bill Nye Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI 

Counterapologetics ep 88 video/blog post  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4iHDPnniA 

https://emersongreenblog.wordpress.com/2021/10/07/michael-behes-massive-own-goal/ 

Michael Behe study:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2286568/ 

Music: "The Beauty of Authenticity" by One Man Book

Susie's Blog:  https://www.flawedtheology.com/

Phil's blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/ 

In today's episode, Phil and Susie discuss the core doctrines of Christianity and how logically they just can't be true.  We will discuss the Epicurean Paradox and how the character of god, the "sin nature of man, and the need for salvation, all have fundamental flaws that don't hold up under scrutiny. 

Show Notes:

References mentioned in the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc 

https://sufficientreasons.wordpress.com/30-2/?fbclid=IwAR1DM1C5PmQLzEDlfhRVxY7iONaN0GIJo7vPqwcUVMEiiSnYNnXk7tL9eto 

Phil's Blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com 

Susie's blog: https://www.flawedtheology.com 

Music: "The Beauty of Authenticity" by One Man Book

Meet Phil and Susie who will share a little about themselves, their deconversion journeys and what they hope to accomplish with this new podcast adventure.  

Susie's blog: https://www.flawedtheology.com 

Phil's blog: https://philqmusings.wordpress.com/ 

Music "The Beauty of Authenticity" by One Man Book