For centuries Americans have valued their liberty, but a growing number of conservatives are now saying cherished values like the freedom of speech, religion, and the press have allowed progressive beliefs to destroy the culture. In response, some Republicans and conservative Christian thinkers argue it’s time to abandon these failed American ideals and copy the fascist, illiberal strategies of leaders like Hungary’s Victor Orban to stop immigration, fight wokism, and to ensure the government supports Christian beliefs. Then, a new article about the separation of families at the Southern border brings Phil to tears, and he pleads with evangelicals to not allow Trump near the presidency again. Skye interviews Dr. Richard Mouw about his new book, “How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor.” They discuss godly versus idolatrous forms of patriotism, what the Bible says about the proper role of government, and debate whether churches should display flags and sing patriotic hymns.  Bonus Patreon news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70304989 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:38 - "How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" 39:22 - Trump administration's family separation policy 54:24 - With God Daily https://withgoddaily.com/ Interview with Richard Mouw "How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor" - https://amzn.to/3QdVR9E 55:48 - Interview intro 57:10 - Talking with evangelicals about patriotism 59:27 - Defining Christian nationalism 01:01:07 - Healthy patriotism and familial language 1:04:26 - Romans 13 and governmental authority 1:17:49 - Patriotic symbols in worship services 1:30:59 - Credits Other articles/resources mentioned:"How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" (The NYT Magazine)-https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/magazine/viktor-orban-rod-dreher.html" The Secret History of Family Separation" (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Episode 521: Flirting with Fascism & Can Christians Be Patriots? with Richard Mouw

Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.

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The verdict is in and Donald Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts in the hush money trial. Skye Jethani and David French discuss the political implications of the guilty verdict. While neither believe the verdict will have any impact on Trump’s base, David thinks it could erode support among supporters on the bubble, but Skye remains unconvinced. Then, they discuss how we should address the legacies of historical heroes who left behind complex and sometimes troubling legacies. Is it appropriate to honor and celebrate certain aspects of these figures, or should their significant flaws compel us to dismiss them entirely? Plus, Skye and David talk about their new favorite tv show, Shogun.   0:00 - Theme Song   0:18 - Episode Starts   0:47 - Trump Verdict   7:27 - Who’s Actually Energizing Their Base?   16:22 - Justice Alito and the Flag   23:08 - The Politics of Officials Flying Flags   29:47 - The Complexity of American Historical Figures   41:40 - Facing the Sins of the Fathers Through Maturity   47:06 - Shogun and Cultural Divide   1:01:10 - End Credits   Other resources:   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

French Friday: The Trump Verdict, Flawed Heroes, & Shogun

In a recent 60 minutes interview, Pope Francis sparked controversy when he claimed that humans are fundamentally good. Katelyn Beaty joins Phil and Kaitlyn to discuss the Pope's comments, and why our theology needs to include both the doctrine that all humans are made in the image of God and an understanding of original sin. Also, new survey data suggests that the "Religious Nones" have plateaued and religious affiliation among Gen Z is on the rise. We discuss why this might be happening and how the "weirdness" of Christianity is what makes it appealing to so many people right now. Then Skye sits down with Sean McGever to discuss his new book, Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield. They explore how these three historical evangelical leaders navigated the morality of slavery and the lasting impact it is still having on the Church today. Plus, even priests are not immune to Florida Man Syndrome.   0:00 - Intro   1:36 - Show Starts   2:58 - Theme Song   3:20 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order   4:24 - World Relief - Visit https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community   5:39 - Italian Island Overrun by Goats   10:31 - Pope Francis Calls Humans “Fundamentally Good?”   28:20 - Ryan Burge and the Plateauing of the Nones   45:57 - Florida Priest Bites Woman   50:18 - Sponsor - Better Help - “This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get on your way to being your best self.” www.betterhelp.com/holypost   51:17 - Interview   59:56 - Opposing Slave Trade, but Not Slavery   1:09:47 - How Edwards, Whitfield, and Wesley Influenced Attitudes About Slavery   1:20:05 - Avoiding Moral Blindspots   1:27:12 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Alicudi: Italian Island Offers Goats Up for Adoption https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68731003   Pope Francis Draws Accusations of Heresy for Saying Humans are Good  https://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-draws-accusations-of-heresy-for-saying-humans-good.html   Ryan Burge and Nones Plateau  https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/the-nones-have-hit-a-ceiling?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r;=6smb2&utm;_source=substack&utm;_medium=email   Florida Priest Admits Biting Woman in Defense of Eucharist  https://www.ncronline.org/news/florida-priest-admits-biting-woman-last-resort-defense-save-eucharist   Other resources: Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield by Sean McGever: https://a.co/d/7SrPAZu   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

619: Human Sinfulness and the Evangelical Legacy of Slavery

Kansas City Chiefs Kicker, Harrison Butker, recently gave a controversial commencement address at Benedictine College where he drew on some popular conservative talking points about Pride Month, Covid 19 policies, and the calling of women in the home. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the problems they had with the speech, as well as their frustrations with some of the criticism of the speech, and how Butker's views seem to have been influenced more by conservative politics than the historic Catholic position on these issues. Then, Kaitlyn sits down with Latasha Morrison to talk about her new book, "Brown Faces, White Spaces." They discuss the importance of understanding historical context to grasp the roots and impacts of systemic racism, and practical ways that churches and individuals can engage in the work of racial reconciliation. Plus, a megachurch in Texas tried to manipulate a traffic study for a stop light, and Phil thinks he has proof that News of the Butt is the best part of the podcast.   Holy Post Plus   0:00 - Intro   1:29 - Show Starts   2:26 - Theme Song   2:47 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout.   4:00 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get 15% off your first order by going to https://www.blueland.com/HOLYPOST   5:11 - Megachurch Manipulates Stoplight Placement 10:49 - News of the Butt Supporters Speak Out   13:35 - Harrison Butker   23:00 - Why Did Butker’s Speech Get So Much Attention?   29:31 - Pope Francis Says Conservatives Have “Suicidal” Mindset   37:12 - Is the Media More Spiritually Formative Than the Pope?   44:15 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at www.betterhelp.com/holypost   45:11 - Sponsor - Go to https://www.songfinch.com/HOLYPOST and start your original song!   46:40 - Interview   48:20 - What is “Be the Bridge?”   55:37 - Understanding Historical Context in Discussing Racial Divide   59:02 - Why She Combined Personal History, Data, and the Bible in “Be the Bridge”   1:03:40 - How Scripture Informs Justice   1:14:14 - Jesus, the Suffering Servant   1:19:53 - Maintaining Hope for Restoration   1:24:48 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in the News Segment:   Texas Megachurch Hits the Brakes After Trying to Skew a Traffic Study:  https://religionnews.com/2024/05/14/a-texas-megachurch-tried-to-fudge-a-traffic-study-to-get-a-new-light-it-did-not-end-well-josh-howerton-lakepointe-church/   Benedictine Sisters of Mount St. Scholastica Rebut Harrison Butker as No One Else Could:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/benedictine-sisters-mount-st-scholastica-100700734.html?   Pope Francis says U.S. Conservatives Have a “Suicidal Attitude”:  https://www.axios.com/2024/05/20/pope-francis-60-minutes-interview-takeaways   Other resources: Be the Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation: https://a.co/d/eZLQFB6   Brown Faces, White Spaces: Confronting Systemic Racism to Bring Healing and Restoration: https://a.co/d/bERMEXN   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

618: Commencement Controversy & Racial Reconciliation with Latasha Morrison

A new iPad advertisement showing musical instruments and art supplies being crushed by a hydraulic press has triggered a backlash against Apple and provoked a wider discussion about the impact of technology on communities and creativity. Jonathan Haidt says religious kids have better mental health on average because they’re connected to incarnate congregations, and the Catholic Church disciplines an AI priest. Then, Kaitlyn talks to Matthew Niermann about the Lausanne Movement’s massive new report on global Christianity and the major trends shaping the future of the church. Also this week—beware of cicada rain!   Holy Post Plus   0:00 - Intro   0:42 - Show Starts   1:54 - Theme Song   2:16 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order   3:22 - World Relief - Visit https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community   4:13 - Catching up on learning German and the Holy Post live event   8:44 - Cicadas’ Powerful Urine   13:41- Apple Crushes Incarnation   23:58 - The Desire of Incarnation   29:01 - Jonathan Haidt and the Anxious Secular Kids   35:30 - An AI Priest is laicized   48:24 - The Church in a Hydraulic Press   55:17 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life - Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at www.meetfabric.com/HOLYPOST   56:26 - Interview   58:03 - What is The Lausanne Movement?   1:02:35 - Polycentric Christianity   1:12:27 - What Challenges and Opportunities Come with this Shift?   1:20:30 - The Question of Our Era: What Does it Mean to be Human?   1:30:35 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Why Cicadas Power Spray Their Pee  https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/04/24/cicadas-emerge-2024-pee-mist/73423177007/   Rage Against the Apple Machine  https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/may-web-only/pastor-apple-ipad-ad-apology-crush-reality.html   Jonathan Haidt Religion Tweet https://twitter.com/JonHaidt/status/1773692138724655394   AI ‘Priest’ Sparks More Online Backlash Than Belief  https://www.ncronline.org/news/ai-priest-sparks-more-backlash-belief   Other resources: Lausanne Movement: https://lausanne.org/   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

617: Apple Crushes It & the Future of Christianity with Matthew Niermann

Phil is back! He gives an update about his family’s harrowing medical emergency. Then, new data shows the Democratic Party’s grip on Black Christians may be slipping. Esau McCaulley shares his take on the reason. Nancy French talks with Skye about the themes in her new memoir, “Ghosted,” including church sexual abuse, political tribalism, trauma, and her miraculous experiences with God. Also this week—another book ban backfires, and defensive driving Florida style.   Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - Christian Presidents https://www.patreon.com/posts/103818968/   0:00 - Intro   1:38 - Show Starts   3:10 - Theme Song   3:32 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.athleticgreens.com/HOLYPOST   4:52 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout.   6:04 - Phil Explains the Medical Emergency   15:52 - The Surgery   24:25 - Esau’s Childhood Stomach Surgery   26:50 - Florida Man Rescues Friend from Alligator   28:14 - Florida Man Tries to Ban Bible from Schools   35:06 - Have Democrats Lost the Black Church?   49:03 - Esau’s Dream Proposal   52:31 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - Get 10% off your first month at  www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST   53:28 - Interview   55:10 - Charismatic Experiences   59:18 - How Did the Frenches Not End Up in MAGA?   1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base?   1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming?    1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances?   1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP?   1:33:58 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in the News Segment: Man Runs Over Alligator with Truck to Save Neighbor from Attack  https://people.com/man-runs-over-alligator-with-truck-to-save-neighbor-from-attack-8637962#:~:text=A%20Florida%20man%20ran%20over,a%20pond%20in%20Collier%20County.   Florida Atheist Uses State’s New Book Banning Law to Object to the Bible  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chaz-stevens-bible-ban_n_6268e98ee4b0ea625c0e2b58   Have Democrats Lost the Black Church?  https://religionunplugged.com/news/2024/4/15/have-the-democrats-lost-the-black-church   Other resources:   Ghosted: an American Story by Nancy French: https://a.co/d/hwzJItt   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.  

Episode 521: Flirting with Fascism & Can Christians Be Patriots? with Richard Mouw

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