Dan shares about a breakout session hosted by Kevin Bump at the 2024 D6 ministry conference: approaching narcissistic leadership from a place of empathy.

Jordan and Dan are back in their respective homes after the trip to Orlando for D6 2024. This week, Jordan shares his takeaways from a breakout session led by Stephanie Cline, "No Place Like Home."

Also, Dan makes an inside joke about "pocket cucumbers," referring to a point when Jordan pulled out a cucumber from his pocket in public during supper.

Jordan and Dan end this month's arc of episodes by talking about cultural trends and influences. How does what we see in culture contrast with who God declares us to be?

Dan and Jordan talk about different influences and sources that influence where students find and define their identity. Also, Jordan comes up with perhaps the worst food combo that Dan has ever heard.

Jordan and Dan continue their discussion this week, focusing on where our students find their own identity and how we as leaders can help point them to Jesus.

Dan and Jordan begin discussing the role of identity as leaders, especially focusing on the false and often flimsy metrics we use to determine if we're being effective in ministry.

Concluding the conversation, Jordan and Dan ask Dr. Wade Mobley some questions about his take on the state of Biblical literacy within congregations, especially amongst students.

Wade, Jordan, and Dan discuss the call to go to seminary. Denominational differences, online options, 2 week intensives, and additional training seminars enter the discussion as well.

Jordan and Dan continue their conversation with Dr. Wade Mobley about different options for those who are considering continuing on into higher education.