Matt Chorley asks how food fraud is affecting what we eat. He hears from Professor Chris Elliott from the Queen’s Institute for Global Food Security in Belfast, Ron McNaughton, head of the Scottish Food Crime and Incidents Unit at Food Standards Scotland and Dr Terry McGrath the Chief Technical Operator of Bia Analytical, a company who test spices.

PLUS Danny Finkelstein and David Aaronovitch discuss Starmer's plan and Civil Service groupthink.

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