Sarah K. Mock is the accomplished author of "Farm (and Other F Words)," and "Big Team Farms," a blogger with the substack feed "People Eat the Land," and podcaster with many, many great ongoing and series podcast creations. She joins Alex to discuss how we relate to the land, farm subsidies, creative ownership and management structures for farms and ranches, the price of food, ecosystems services and more! Plus a funny episode break with Chloe and our friends at Mitchell and Webb.