In this episode of Foodagogy, Angeline Aow sits down with storyteller, educator, and author Kevin Wilson—widely known as the "CEO of Chai."
About Our Guest: Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson is a storyteller, educator, and content creator who uses the art of chai making as a tool for connection, cultural reflection, and intercultural bridge-building. Born in Sri Lanka and having lived in Oman, Lebanon, California, and now Michigan, Kevin brings a transcultural perspective to his work. Through his engaging TikTok videos and his book The Way of Chai: Recipes for a Meaningful Life, Kevin explores how chai fosters mindfulness, empathy, and belonging. He is the founder of Cross Cultural Kev, a platform dedicated to creating spaces where people feel seen, known, and loved across difference.
Learn more at: crossculturalkev.com
Follow Kevin on Instagram: @crossculturalkev
Key Discussion Points
Chai as ritual and presence — Unlike coffee culture in the United States — often consumed as fuel — chai invites slowness, presence, and connection. The laborious, intimate process of making chai from scratch (water temperature, ginger, spices) is itself a form of hospitality: an invitation into the kitchen, one of the most intimate spaces we have.
Food is never value-neutral — Drawing on a theologian friend's research into food and drink in scripture, Kevin reflects on how food throughout history has been used to heal or hurt, to elevate or demonize. Chai can be a tool of genuine solidarity — or subtle manipulation. Awareness of that power matters.
Indirect communication as a pedagogy of change — Kevin explains why he favours indirect communication over data-driven, direct messaging. Rather than presenting information to change minds, he creates multi-sensory experiences — stories, recipes, humour — that shift what people desire and love, drawing on James K.A. Smith's thesis that we are what we love, not merely what we know.
Hurry as the enemy of belonging — Kevin argues that rushing is one of society's greatest barriers to genuine connection and inclusion. Building a "tea room" — a slow, safe, unhurried space — is the prerequisite for any real bridge-building across differences.
The kitchen as a portal — Inviting someone into your kitchen is a different cultural act than inviting them into your living room. It is vulnerable, intimate, and generous. This is the spirit Kevin tries to carry into every piece of content he creates.
Books that Kevin mentioned:
Smith, James K.A. — You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit (2016)
Wilson, Kevin — The Way of Chai: Recipes for a Meaningful Life
"If you really want to build lasting bridges between yourself and the other, you can't just give them information. You have to provide them a space where they're seen, they're known, and they are loved." — Kevin Wilson
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