In which the famous five channel the spirit of grumpy and talk Kickstarter. Yes its the topic that just keeps on giving. In a twist in the usual what has Mike backed and pulled out of now, they discuss how many Kickstarted games have actually been sucessful in terms of longevity or is the fact they raise loads of money sucess enough.

In which Mike is joined by Lee and Matt to talk about the #3peaksgaming challenge that they are going to do next year as well as the fact that Matt is going to run a marathon. We point out they are called snickers now but then Matt just gets all grumpy at us.

In which the famous five talk Daffcon schedules, how stuff is evolving, when tickets will be on sale and all manner of stuff related to the event.

In which Joel talks to Mike about going to his first organised Guildball event. Thats it, they stay on topic, its the right length and it gets the information across. Don't worry though, tomorrow normal service will be resumed.

In which something unexpected happens

In which a whole horde of people - its starts off at 3, by the end its 5 - talk Guildball. Its long and its rambling but I make no apologies for that as its a classic blokes down the pub talking gaming type episode.

In which Mike and Conrad discuss how COnrad got on at the Hordes/Warmachine Nationals a couple of weeks ago. At least that what it starts out as. It ends up going in a very different direction where they talk about the difference with various gaming communities and how judges / TOs insert themselves into games.

In which Mike and Lee talk to Mike Hutchinson (@crikeymiles) about Gaslands, his Mad Max inspired car combat game. Surprises and excitement abound in the episode but you shall have to listen so that he can explain everything that is going on himself. Tease isn't it.

In which Mike and Conrad finish their talk with Des about "The Roots of Magic". Today we talk about what it has taken to get the game to the point it is now and where it is going to go next. Hopefully the passion that Des has for the game has come through over the last couple of days and got you interested in the next stage.

In which Mike and Conrad continue to talk to Des about "The Roots of Magic". Today we talk about the game itself.