We have a conversation with Dr. McLean Sibanda covering his book on the subject of Intellectual Property, Trademarks and Patents. He shares his insights into the complexities of managing the interest of different but well meaning government players in policy formulation. He talks about South Africa’s journey and transition from Aparteid to the present day and the laws as they stood. He talks about capacity building and the work that went into creating a space for more African Lawyers and the creation of curriculum for this cause. He also talks about the countries that he visited in order to gain better knowledge for SA. We also cover international treaties and regional agreements and how we can make the most of these.