Frank reconnects with Paul MacCormack, The Mindful Superintendent, to reflect on 10 years of mindfulness practice and living life in a more intentional way. Frank and Paul discuss unlearning, and letting things go as means for offering yourself permission to be present and be human. This wonderful conversation ranges from vulnerability and failure, to how to navigate the path out of the pandemic using mindfulness skills with practice. Paul ends the program guiding us through some box breathing. Take a minute and give this one a listen!