We reacted to the best (and worst!) advice you shared about navigating your twenties. From finding faith-filled mentors to practical hacks like travel credit cards, we covered it all—yes, even a slightly controversial convo about giving up a dog. We laughed, we disagreed, and we got real about everything from building community to trusting God’s voice in seasons of uncertainty. Whether we’re looking back on our twenties or walking through them now, this episode reminded us how important it is to stay rooted in Jesus, go all in with our people, and keep saying yes to what He’s doing.

In This Episode

[00:00] Real Talk on Twenties: Chaos, Faith, and... Dog Drama?
[06:00] Friendship, Mentors & Finding Women Who Sparkle for Jesus
[10:30] Creating Community & Trusting God with the Next Right Thing
[14:30] Travel Hacks, Gut Checks & Discernment vs. Desire
[18:30] When You Feel Stuck: Pivoting, Surrendering, and Letting God Lead
[24:00] Altar Moments, Obedience, and God's Faithfulness in the Unknown

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We're back together! And we're recording in Kenz's stomping grounds of Vero Beach. We dove into what it really looks like to build deeper, more meaningful friendships. We vulnerably shared our own struggles with loneliness, miscommunication, and seasons where friendships have felt hard. Using our own journey as a model, we outlined 7 simple yet powerful ways to pursue authentic connection. Whether you're in a season of abundance or feeling disconnected, this episode is filled with practical encouragement to go deeper with the people around you.

In This Episode

[00:00] Mac Visits Vero Beach & Water Bottle Drama

[04:30] A Word to Our OG Listeners & Podcast Growth Ask

[08:50] Why We’re Talking About Friendship

[10:45] Tip #1: Pursue Them

[13:15] Tip #2: Pray for Them

[17:50] Tip #3: Practice Curiosity

[22:40] Tip #4: Prioritize Honesty

[27:30] Tip #5: Participate in Their World

[32:15] Tip #6: Process the Hard Stuff

[37:20] Tip #7: Push Each Other Toward Jesus

[42:00] Final Encouragement to Take the First Step

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In this hilarious, unfiltered, and deeply real episode, Kenz and her husband Josh finally sit down to share their full relationship story—the "rated R" version (okay, not that R-rated, but more real than usual!). From awkward dating app experiences to their messy first kiss and all the bumps in between, they hold nothing back. You’ll hear about cold shoulders, unexpected speeches, long-distance blunders, and how God met them in the middle of their mess. Whether you're single, dating, or married, this story will have you laughing, cringing, and maybe tearing up too. The ultimate reminder that God writes the best (and sometimes the most surprising) love stories.

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Okay, friends—today is a super special episode because I have my husband Josh on the podcast with me! We’re telling the full story of how baby Chip came into the world…and let me tell you, it was not what we expected. From thinking I’d just walk into the hospital and get the epidural (lol) to watching a Bin Laden documentary while laboring (double lol), things escalated fast and got real intense. We talk about everything—the painful wait for the epidural, my back labor, Josh going full Enneagram 8 on the nurses, and the sweetest moment when we paused to pray and God showed up big. This episode is raw, funny, and deeply personal. So grateful to share this one with you!

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[06:00] Labor Begins... During a War Documentary?
We realize I’m in early labor, and yes—we’re watching an Osama Bin Laden documentary instead of listening to Oceans.

[09:00] The Hospital Experience: Confusion, Back Labor & No Epidural
They didn’t believe I was in labor (spoiler: I was). Then we waited over two hours for an epidural while I was in major pain.

[14:00] Josh Goes Full Enneagram 8 & I Hit My Limit
Josh has a throwdown with the nurses while I contemplate accepting fentanyl (!!!). We stop to pray—and God really met us.

[18:00] Redemption in the Chaos + Chip is Here

[26:00] Processing the Birth + What We’d Do Differently

[33:30] Life With Two Kids: The Beautiful Chaos

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This episode is for the girl who's walking through pain, disappointment, or healing from a past she never asked for. Mac and Kenz sit down with author, veteran, coach, and fellow Swiftie — Tony Miltenberger to unpack the deep beauty of healing through your wounds. Tony shares the inspiration behind his new book Wisdom in the Wound, his personal journey of uncovering hidden hurt, and how naming our pain can unlock God’s purpose in it. This one is real, redemptive, and full of practical hope.

In This Episode

[05:00] Meet Tony Miltenberger: Army Vet, Podcaster, and Swiftie Dad

[07:30] The Meet Cute: Tony & Karen's Church Youth Group Love Story

[09:00] Wisdom in the Wound: Why Tony Wrote This Book

[11:00] Prolonged Stress & How Trauma Shapes Us

[14:00] Tony’s Wound: Feeling Unseen and How It Shaped His Life

[17:00] Secrets, Shame & Emotional Freedom

[20:00] Using the Emotional Intensity Scale to Find Your Wounds

[24:00] Your Wound and Your Gift Might Be Connected

[27:00] Mac & Kenz Reflect: Discovering Their Own Wounds

[30:00] Parenting Through Wounding & Healing in Real-Time

[34:00] God’s Redemption in the Broken Places

[38:00] Final Encouragement: Name It, Heal It, Watch God Use It

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We’re talking to the girl who feels like she has to be the perfect Christian. We’ve been there too—trying to say the right thing, pray the perfect prayer, and never mess up. But that pressure? It’s exhausting. We open up about the ways we’ve struggled with perfectionism in our own faith and how God has gently reminded us that His grace isn’t something we can earn. Together, we’re breaking down lies, uncovering truth, and choosing freedom over performance. If you’ve ever felt like you had to have it all together, this one’s for you.

In This Episode

[00:00] Let’s Talk About the Pressure to Be Perfect

[01:00] What Perfectionism Looks Like in Our Faith

[03:00] When Culture Becomes the Standard Instead of Christ

[09:00] Where We’ve Seen the Pressure Come From

[16:30] What God Actually Says About Being Holy

[21:00] God’s Grace in Ephesians 2

[22:30] What We Can Do to Break Free

[25:00] How We’re Learning to Be Honest in Community

[27:00] Learning to Rest in God’s Love (For Real)

[28:00] Finding Growth, Not Guilt, in Our Failures

[29:00] Choosing to Be Imperfect on Purpose

[31:00] Final Thoughts + Why We’re So Excited About the Bible Study

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This week, we’re diving into all the spicy opinions we didn’t know we had until becoming moms! From piercing baby ears to co-sleeping, sleep training, and screen time, we’re sharing our honest (and maybe controversial) thoughts on all the “shoulds” that come with raising littles. Whether you’re deep in diaper duty or just curious what kind of moms we are, this episode is equal parts candid, spicy, and kind.

We hope this one makes you laugh, feel seen, and know you’re not alone—even if your parenting choices look totally different than ours. We’re all just figuring it out, and that’s more than okay.

[00:00] Why Kenz loves hot takes & Mac’s fear of getting canceled
[01:35] What kind of moms are we? (Spoiler: not Pinterest moms)
[03:26] Piercing baby ears – not for us, but you do you
[05:36] Sleep training – what we did, how it worked, and why people have feelings
[11:45] Co-sleeping – why we passed and how that impacted our sanity
[17:00] Screen time – our approach, the exceptions, and Friday night movies
[24:00] Grace over perfection – the motto we’re learning to live by
[27:15] Church + childcare – navigating Sunday rhythms with little ones
[30:10] Spanking – our honest thoughts on discipline and alternatives
[36:45] Public vs. private school – praying through the decision
[43:30] Vaccines – our personal experiences and how we’re navigating it all
[50:20] Final thoughts – trusting God in the unknowns of parenting

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We’re talking straight to the girl in transition—whether you just moved to a new place, started a new job, became a mama, or are figuring out what’s next. We’ve both been there, and we get how hard and disorienting it can feel. But we believe this can be a season where your faith grows in radical ways.

We’re sharing three super practical takeaways that have helped us keep our faith in motion when everything around us felt new or uncertain. We’ll walk through the “Ask, Seek, Knock” process from Matthew 7:7, talk about why boldness matters in new seasons, and remind you that you don’t have to do this alone. God is with you, and He wants to meet you right here—in the middle of the uncertainty.

In This Episode

[01:00] Real-Life Transitions – From high school to college, new cities, and motherhood

[02:00] Keeping Your Faith in Motion – Avoiding spiritual stagnancy in new seasons

[03:30] Ask, Seek, Knock – A practical faith process based on Matthew 7:7

[08:45] Step 1: Ask – How to ask God better questions

[10:30] Step 2: Seek – Look for signs of God’s faithfulness

[12:00] Step 3: Knock – Take risks, walk through open doors with God

[13:45] Boldness Through the Holy Spirit – You have what it takes because He is with you

[15:00] Encouragement for the Girl Who Feels New – Be the inviter, the encourager, the pursuer

[16:30] Book Reading Storytime – Kenza’s real-life example of small obedience producing big fruit

[18:00] Boldness Isn't Just for You – God uses your courage to bless others

[19:00] How to Find Boldness – Worship and being in His presence

[20:00] Final Word: Spend Your Time Wisely – Steward the season you’re in with intention

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We just wrapped up our Delight Ministries Conference and today we are going to go through some of what we taught our leaders there. We're talking the four defining moments that shape our Christian journeys, using the imagery of altar-building in scripture. This episode explores how your life can become a living altar through pivotal spiritual moments with God. Whether you're stepping out in faith or standing in the gap, this episode is full of biblical insight, personal stories, and real encouragement. If you’re asking what’s next in your walk with Jesus, this is for you!

In This Episode

[01:45] What Is Delight Ministries?

[03:15] Why This Work Matters

[04:50] The Message Behind the Episode

[06:00] Understanding Biblical Altars

[10:00] The Altar of Stepping Out

[14:30] Mac & Kenz’s Stepping Out Moment

[17:15] The Altar of Standing Between

[21:45] Living in the Tension: House of God vs Heap of Rubble

[25:30] The Altar of Staying Surrendered

[31:10] Wrestling with God's Timing and Trusting His Plan

[35:00] The Altar of Seeing the Sacrifice

[41:00] A Call to Live a Life Marked by Altar Moments

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She’s back!! After a short break to welcome baby Chip into the world, Kenz is back on the mic with Mac, and y’all—this one’s full of laughs, life updates, and one big announcement you won’t want to miss.

We catch up on all the summer highs and lows—from blowout mishaps and photo shoot chaos to cozy newborn cuddles and life in ministry. Mac shares about Young Life camp in Colorado, Kenz opens up about the challenges of navigating two kids while supporting Josh through a busy work season, and together we talk about making space for fun, connection, and God’s faithfulness in every season.

Grab your coffee, settle in, and get ready to smile, laugh, and maybe even tear up—this episode feels like a warm hang with your best friends. And seriously, stick around to the end for the big news!

In This Episode

[00:00] Kenz is back! Baby Chip’s arrival + catching up on life

[03:00] Blowout salon drama (and why Kenz shed a tear in Nashville)

[07:00] Meeting baby Chip for the first time

[09:00] Newborn life, nicknames, and adjusting to two kids

[10:40] Summer highs and lows: Kenz’s cozy newborn rhythm + marriage challenges in a busy season

[16:40] Mac’s highlight: Young Life camp in Colorado and an inspiring camp speaker

[20:00] Ministry, relationships, and craving more time for fun

[24:00] Navigating boredom, routine, and connection in this season

[??:??] The Big Announcement 🎉

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