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This podcast starts and ends abruptly, like lots of arguments. What sets them off? What sets US off? Why, at our mature age, are we still sneaking around the house to avoid upsetting the natural balance of things? Is it because we've become wise or tamed? Finally, would you like to be one of the few who are empowered to declare that David is a donkey, as the proverb goes? Sometimes a conversation raises so many questions it can be as entertaining as a dog chasing its tail. Forgive us.