Danny is joined by Dr. Laura Gilbert, CBE, in a conversation that delves into the global inequalities that can be both created, and addressed by AI.

Laura highlights the crucial role of human motivation in deploying AI technologies, drawing on her wealth of experience working in Downing Street, and now as part of the Tony Blair Institute. The conversation also touches on the importance of open-source solutions and the unintended consequences of overconfidence.

Read the books Danny mentions:

Black Box Thinking - https://amzn.eu/d/a7s6u2C

Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution - https://amzn.eu/d/fmeOY9Q

If you liked Force Multiplier, make sure to check out Danny’s debut podcast that shares inspiring stories from people with purpose - Sondership

01:15 Vision for a Less Unequal World

02:55 Motivations Behind AI Development

08:42 Cultural Impacts of AI

12:10 Predicting the Future

17:45 Optimizing for Better Decision Making

22:20 Government and AI: Real-World Applications

26:45 AI-Powered Vulnerability Detection

27:30 Human-Centric Tech Development

27:59 Become an Expert in your Own Right

29:29 Know What You Don’t Know

33:35 Open Source and Collaboration

37:43 Embodied AI and Robotics

43:00 Decide What You Care About

"What is the world you want to build?"

In the premiere episode of Force Multiplier, Danny Attias sits down with Claudia Harris OBE (CEO of Makers) to discuss why the future of work isn't about code, it's about becoming a "fearless learner".

Claudia shares her journey from McKinsey and Tony Blair’s Delivery Unit to leading Europe’s first coding bootcamp, where she proves that resilience and emotional intelligence are the true skills of the future. Together, they strip away the sci-fi fear of AI, reframing it as a "word calculator", a tool that requires human mastery, not just blind adoption.

They dive deep into:

* The 3 Stages of AI Adoption: Moving from Mastery (prompting) to Automation (efficiency) to Re-imagining (complexity).* The "Playground" Trap: Why AI "friends" who never disagree with us might be dangerous for human resilience.* Agency over Anxiety: Why we must stop reacting to tech trends and start deciding what meaningful work looks like.* The Optimist’s Case: Why this is the most exciting time to be alive, if we are willing to.

00:18 The Change Makers: Transforming Careers

01:28 Personal Passion and Professional Journey

02:22 The Genesis of Makers: Coding Bootcamp

03:17 The Importance of Fearless Learning

04:05 AI and the Future of Work

04:35 Claudia's Career Path: From McKinsey to OBE

06:39 The Role of AI in Career Education

07:24 The Impact of AI on Society and Work

08:09 Building Skills for the Future

17:46 Mastering AI: A Three-Tier Approach

27:03 Balancing Personal and Professional Life

27:52 The Privilege of Working in AI

29:37 Conclusion: Embracing Change and Optimism