In-Between Charges

Forging Winners in a Market Slowdown with Rami Syväri from beY0nd


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In this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike sit down with Rami Syväri, advisor and founder at beY0nd, to unpack the evolving dynamics of performance, strategy, and resilience in the EV charging industry. With a rich background spanning Fortum, Swisscharge, and now advising CPOs across Europe, Rami brings a front-row perspective to what “good” really looks like in a CPO’s operation, and where the industry still has work to do.

Together, they dive deep into the importance of transparency, the power of benchmarking, and how operators can meaningfully compare themselves to peers without compromising sensitive data. Rami shares insights on building scalable, future-proof charging businesses, the operational maturity journey of CPOs, and why now, amidst market “hiccups,” is the time when tomorrow’s winners are forged.

From tech stack choices to the business case for ultra-slow charging, and from strategic pivots to trust-building through anonymized data models, this episode is a masterclass in navigating the high-stakes, fast-changing EV ecosystem.

Key Topics:

  • The DNA of CPO success and benchmarking KPIs that matter
  • Why ultra-slow charging might just be the next big thing
  • The "ketchup bottle effect" of delayed EV adoption and its implications
  • Platform vs. in-house software: when to build, when to partner
  • How to prepare now for the next wave of growth


Tune in for a grounded, strategic look at where the EV industry is headed—and how to get there with confidence. Happy charging!


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