Join your host Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, as he brings together three influential voices in crypto law and policy: Chris Brummer (Georgetown Law Professor and Founder & CEO of Bluprynt), Marco Santori (Chief Legal Officer at Kraken), and Lee Schneider (General Counsel at Ava Labs). In this candid conversation, these industry veterans debate what comes next for digital asset regulation, explore the tensions between innovation and investor protection, and tackle the question of whether Congress can finally deliver comprehensive crypto legislation. From potential SEC enforcement actions to the future of DeFi regulation, this episode offers an insider's view of the challenges and opportunities ahead as crypto enters a new regulatory era.