Host: Ranger Ben Long Co-host: Volunteer Emma Thompson Guest: Friends Group Chair, Kristin Keith Description: As the Chair of the Fort’s Friends Group: the Fort Larned Old Guard, Kristin Keith helps lead the Old Guard to fill in some gaps in funding, projects, and acquisitions that the park is unable to fulfill on its own. Join us as we discuss the plans for the Village site, Fort Larned’s future, and the Old Guard’s role in it all.

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Ranger Ben Long: Welcome to Footsteps: The Fort Larned Podcast. I'm your host Ranger Ben and in this season we are taking a look at Fort Larned's past, present, and future. Today is the finale where we're looking at part two of Fort Larned's future. Co-hosting with me today is our volunteer Emma. How's it going today?

Emma Thompson: It's going good.

Ben: Now as we kick this off why don't you to tell us a little bit about yourself, what got you involved with the fort, and what you've been doing since you've started volunteering here?

Emma: Alright, well my name is Emma and I'm a senior at Larned High School. I've lived here for about 11 years now, it's actually my second time living here. And I remember coming out to the fort as a-- like a little girl like either with my parents or through the school and I remember just-- I loved being out here kind of being away from like the town and social media and I-- it's kind of weird but I love the smell of the bridge. Like it's just so nostalgic and I just fell in love with it so when I got into High School, in my sophomore year I joined FCCLA and then they had like this volunteer opportunity to come out to the fort for the Candlelight Tour and I was like oh this is really cool I haven't been out there in years and I think it just be a great opportunity and I I'm a big fan of History I love learning. So I came out here it was a little rough cuz it was my first time but I really loved it and then so I came back my junior year, the following year to volunteer again for the Candlelight Tour and then that same year I was inducted into National Honor Society and I was like oh man I really got to get these 50 hours. So I was like well what can I do and I thought about it and then I saw a post where you were looking for volunteers. So it's like okay this is a great opportunity because I love history and I'm also going to get my hours in so it's a win-win situation. So I got in contact with you around December, January and then I came out here pretty consistently for a while doing a little bit of living history, kind of learning about the fort's background and its story, but also working on the social media posts. Summer of my Junior year, I kind of dropped off the face of the Earth. Just got so busy and then this year has been very hectic and I miss coming out here.

Ben: As we get into this episode our interview today is with our friends group the Fort Larned Old Guard's Chair Kristin Keith. It was a really fun interview learning about the Old Guard, their plans for the future, and also ways that they've helped us out. We've touched on it in previous episodes but hearing more about the Village Site and their plans for the future and hopefully giving it to the National Park Service, that was probably one of my favorite parts of the episode.

Emma: It was great to learn, I learned a lot of things. Yeah cuz I never heard of it before and then she started talking about I was like oh like I really didn't know that that's really cool.

Ben: And for it to be such an integral part of our nation's history too and it's right in our backyard.

Emma: Yeah!

Ben: Well we enjoyed interviewing Kristin and we also hope you enjoy taking a listen, so here you go.

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Ben: So welcome Kristin, how's it going today?

Kristin Keith: I'm great, thanks for having me.

Ben: Great to have you on. You are unique in that you are the first non-National Park Service employee to be a guest on this podcast.

Kristin: Well thanks for having me and I guess I'm okay with being classified as unique.

Ben: So as you know this season we're looking at Fort Larned's past, present, and future and today we're wrapping up Fort Larned's future. But as we get into that why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself what drew you to get involved at the Fort and sort a little bit about your story.

Kristin: Sure! I'm Kristin Keith, I grew up here in Larned, I've been married for 32 years for a guy I met in fifth grade. We had our first official date at a Junior High, cuz back then it was called Junior High you know not Middle School, a Junior High dance and the rest is history I guess that was 32 years. His name is Joel, he works for Innovative Livestock Services. We have three kids. Joelle who's a nurse practitioner, her significant other works for the sheriff's department. Joelle has a son, Ridge, who is not spoiled at all of course since he's the only grandchild. And then my middle son is Brady, he is an English teacher and a head football coach at the High School here in Larned, his wife Lindsey works in the social media marketing business. My youngest Colby is a free spirit, he works in Canada half the year as a hunting guide and then has his own taxidermy business here in Kansas and his wife Dava is a librarian. So that's my family like I said I grew up here in Larned. When I was in high school I was one of those kids that loved history but didn't really tell anybody about that. When the history teacher would give extra credit I would of course silently do all of the extra credit, not because I needed the points, but because I thought it was really fun. But I didn't tell anybody but I also loved literature and writing so when I went to college that's what I studied, I studied English literature. Went to Wichita State for two years and then transferred to Southwestern College which is a private college in Winfield. Which I really enjoyed that. After college I taught for several years first at Cowley County Community College then moved back here to Larned, taught at Larned High School and Barton County for a few years. And then I decided to change careers, which was more in line with the history side of my interest. So I got into the antique business, started doing antique shows which then that became the estate sale business which I'm currently doing now. When I did switch careers I started going to lots of auctions of course to pick up items to sell at antique shows, and I met a guy named George Elmore at the auction. And we would visit and after a while he picked up on my interest in history and said hey you should come volunteer at the Fort. Well at that time our boys were very heavily involved in sports and so we traveled a lot and all our weekends were spent you know at the baseball field or basketball court or football field, so it just didn't work out then. But once everybody was out of the house, I came out filled out the paperwork, my first experience as a volunteer was over a Memorial Day weekend. There was a ranger here at that time Ellen Jones. She said I think you should try some living history as an officer's wife on officer's row. And I thought well sure you know I'll do anything. So she dressed me out and put me in a building and said and it's best if you can do this first person and I thought oh you know I'd never had any experience I was never in drama or anything like that in high school or college. So I said okay I'll give it a shot and she briefly told me a story about the home that I was in which happened to belong to Captain Nicholas Nolan and just kind of threw me in the deep end and I absolutely fell in love with it. The solitude and the landscape out here, the people, not only the staff but the other volunteers and then of course the visitors. Which is absolutely amazing, you meet people not only from all over the state but all over the country and even the world. So it's such a neat experience and then of course fell in love with all the clothes. But most importantly I fell in love with Nicholas Nolan's story and his wife's story out here it's an amazing story. So that's how I got involved and then it's just grown from there.

Ben: So how long ago was that that you started?

Kristin: Oh, seven, eight years ago maybe.

Ben: So that obviously evolved into getting involved with Old Guard and the reason that we chose you to speak on today's podcast-- or to be a guest on today's podcast is because you're the current Chair of the Old Guard. So I you to tell us a little bit about the Fort Learned Old Guard and about your involvement in-- I guess your evolution of your involvement over the years.

Kristin: It was a very quick evolution. Several years ago, they were looking for another board member and George talked to me about it and I agreed. I had never really heard anything about the Old Guard, so I thought wow this is a really great organization it's just another step and how I can help out here. So I joined the board and then somehow very quickly I ended up as Chair. I don't know how that happened or what they were thinking, but I really, I really enjoy the organization. It's a great organization.

Emma: So I guess I've never really heard of it until a couple of years ago, so I don't really know exactly what it does, could you elaborate on that?

Kristin: Of course. So most National Parks have what's called a friends group and the Fort Larned Old Guard is the friends group here for Fort Larned. We are a 501c3 which is a nonprofit organization and friends groups kind of help with what-- things that are out of the scope of what the park can do for itself. So our mission is to help preserve, restore, and interpret the cultural and historical resources out here, so we just kind of help fill in the gaps. We've bought artifacts, we help with some programs, and things like that. So the artifacts that we have purchased, we purchased a sword that belonged to Frank Baldwin, we purchased the 3rd Infantry rifle, a Colt revolver that belonged to Nicholas Nolan, that was about a year and a half ago. And when we came across that you know I got super excited because I'm so into his story and it was like I'd come across it-- well I didn't come across it but George I think had found it through a mutual friend but it felt like you know my family heirloom was coming back home here to Fort Larned when we got that. We've also purchased a Rucker Ambulance and had that restored and then there were a couple of Native American litho prints that we had had commission to sell. So those are the main things that we've done out here.

Ben: When Nolan's revolver came up and that sort of came across I was-- I remember talking with George about that and I was like this is this is cool that I mean it's out there that we have this this piece of Nolan's history that's there and the next correspondence I got from George was the Old Guard's getting it for us. That was awesome.

Kristin: Absolutely, it was super exciting.

Ben: Now all those things you listed so the rifle, the revolver, the sword, and the ambulance people can see when they come here.

Kristin: Yes.

Ben: So we've got actually Frank Baldwin's sword and Nolan's revolver in the same case in our museum and then the 3rd Infantry rifle just few steps away from that and then the ambulance sort of hangs out in our Shops building at the moment.

Kristin: Yeah and so we're always looking for things with provenance or a story that's somehow connected to Fort Larned whether it be an object that was here, something that belonged to a soldier that was here. So we're always looking for things, so if any of the listeners ever come across anything let us know.

Emma: Well how do you come across these things? Is there like a like a marketplace for it or just through people?

Kristin: Through people, word of mouth. I mean I'm always looking on eBay you know to see if I would just happen to see something but word of mouth. With reenactors just people who are excited about history and the story out here.

Ben: So it's not just artifacts and things like that that the Old Guard provides, you also help support us for events and things like that. Can you explain a little bit about the Old Guard's involvement with not only Mess and Muster our sort of cooperative event, but how you support other events as well?

Kristin: Sure. So our-- I think everyone's favorite event that we're involved in out here is Mess and Muster which is a yearly membership meeting with programs centered around a certain theme. And it's always the last-- most of the time it's the last Saturday of April. So the day starts off with a board meeting of course we have to get, you know, business out of the way but then the rest of the day is filled with programs and demonstrations. And then in the evening, there's a meal, a general meeting, and then we have a main speaker that comes in or a program. This year our Mess and Muster will center around the Cheyenne-Lakota Village site, so I think it's going to be a great day focusing on a subject we haven't talked about in a while.

Ben: I'm definitely looking forward to that and we've talked about the village site on both the episode with George and with our Superintendent Kevin Eads, so for those listening if you haven't checked those out definitely check those episodes out as well. Can you talk a little bit about the Village site and the Old Guard's involvement in that and hopefully getting it to National Historic Landmark status?

Kristin: Sure. So the short story-- it's a long story, but the short story is there were some Plains Indians, Cheyenne Lakota, that were camped at a site about 30 miles from Fort Larned and a group of businessmen and newspaper men who thought they might profit from Indian Wars started a rumor that there was going to be an uprising. So among others General Hancock was sent out here with 1,400 men to talk with them and to ensure that nothing like that happened. Well the Plains Indians that were out here and living at that site many of them were survivors of Sand Creek, so they weren't very trusting of course of the military. Some did meet with Hancock but there was a lot of delay tactics being used in order for the inhabitants of that village to escape. Which is what happened, which of course angered Hancock and he ordered that the village be burned, so he burned the village. Which just created all kinds of chaos and basically caused a war that never would have occurred had he not burned that village and misunderstood what was going on. We feel that it's one of the most important Native American sites in Kansas if not the most important site because of what happened afterwards. It was just you know the mistrust of Native Americans even more of the military which just, you know, led to more wars with Indians, so. George Elmore actually pinpointed the site and discovered where it was after a lot of research and that was in 1976. Since then, the Old Guard has taken ownership of it and we've been caring for it. We've put in a parking lot and signage and that kind of thing in hopes of someday that it will transfer to the National Park Service. And that's where we are now, we've just started the process and it's a long, long drawn out process. But you have to have permission from the National Park Service to nominate it as a landmark, and we've sent that letter so that's where we are and we're just in the very beginning of it. And that letter was sent in March of '23 and we haven't heard back yet, but we're hopeful that we will hear back soon so that process can continue. And Kevin Eads has been very helpful with us and also Leo Oliva of course with that process so we're excited about what the future holds out there.

Ben: Yeah, I definitely am too. It's exciting.

Emma: Do you know of any other village sites around Kansas that are trying to do the same thing -- make it into a an actual Park site?

Kristin: There are other landmarks, historic landmarks yes. But again, we feel like we have the best one. We have the one that has the most relevant history to what happened after 1867.

Ben: Yeah, and that was one thing that George mentioned too is Hancock's War, his campaign there in the Spring of 1867 really set the tone for the rest of the Indian Wars the rest of the US Government's handling of the Plains and the Plains States and the Plains Indians who were here already. And it formulated in Custer's mind how the Plains Indian should be handled as well which may have worked against him in the end.

Kristin: Right. Didn't yeah-- he didn't fare well in the end. But yes, he was here during that time also.

Ben: So one thing that I'm sort of curious about, we've been talking about sort of your personal background what's gotten you interested in the fort and all that and a little bit about your role in the Old Guard but for someone who hasn't had experience being a chair of a nonprofit, how would you explain what you do specifically in the Old Guard?

Kristin: Well what we're working on right now and Celeste Dixon, Ranger Dixon is helping me with this is, we're creating a website. We've had a website in the past, we're just updating it so that it's mobile friendly. Kind of bringing us up to date and into the future. So we're currently working on that. We hold two board meetings a year, I'm always looking for projects you know that we might help the fort with, looking for objects, looking for programs, in discussion with you and Kevin and George and other staff members out here. I've spoken to civic groups in town about the Fort of course and our organization, I've done some programs at the library. Just trying to get the word out that there is a friends group out here, that there's always new things going on at the Fort, changes especially when the new museum came in, that if someone hasn't been out you know in 3 months or 6 months or 6 years, it doesn't matter there's always something new and changing out here. Just trying to keep people interested in the story out here so that they can share it with others and the visitation increases. We also have social media page that I help coordinate things on there. So those are the main things.

Ben: In your time of being Chair of the Old Guard is there anything that you learned or has it been enjoyable experience?

Kristin: Oh my goodness, I learn something every day. I would say, you know, I haven't been around very long as a volunteer so my knowledge is limited but it's growing. I-- that's how I like to say. I love that there's resources like George Elmore and Leo Oliva. Just a wealth of knowledge, you know, anytime I have a question those are my go-to people. I learn something all of the time.

Ben: I mentioned that on the episode with Kevin is, I've been here just about every day for the last 4 years-- 4 and a half now, but I'm always learning something every day there's so much to learn here.

Kristin: Sure. I really enjoy like the organizing side of it and the planning side of events, so that's kind of what I feel like my gifts are. The bonus is just learning the history and the stories that's just a definite bonus to it.

Emma: What does the Fort Larned Old Guard hope to teach the younger generation or what would you like to do in the future?

Kristin: So another one of our projects is in conjunction with the Fort, we secure a grant through Open Outdoors for Kids and Celeste Dixon helps us write that grant which provides transportation or bus money for different schools to come here. It is a great program as you know schools are on limited budgets and a lot of them wouldn't be able to take field trips because of the cost of fuel. So we provide that money in order for schools to come out here. I think on average, Ben can help me with this, maybe 20 to 25 schools come a year does that sound?

Ben: That sounds about right, yeah.

Kristin: Right, so our grant money is anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 a year. It actually decreased this year to $5,000 which is actually a good thing, that means that more organizations are applying for that money, so there's more kids who are able to attend a variety of parks. So it's a great thing, it's a great program, it's through the National Park Foundation. The best part of it for me is that I get to help with the school tours out here. It's one of my very favorite things to do. Kids ask the best questions they keep you on your toes. They always ask-- there's always different questions that get asked and then of course some of them ask the same questions every single time. But the schools that come here, they've-- most of them have prepared their kids with a backstory or whatever they're studying in social studies or history so they know a little bit about it. It's just fun though to expose them to see the Fort is so well preserved, it's just an experience that they wouldn't be able to have of course through a textbook or video. But to see the Fort and walk through the buildings and see the objects, and hear the story, it's an amazing experience for them and I'm glad that the Old Guard can help support that.

Emma: Personally when I was younger and in elementary school middle school and we would come out here and I think that's what really made me fall in love with this place at such an early age was being out here with all my classmates and learning and walking through all the buildings.

Kristin: Yes, and when I when I start tours with them I always start by explaining what living history is and that's what I do sometimes and I always make sure that they know that there's special events that go on out here. So, hey if you like this place you know tell your parents about it and have them bring you back for an event and if you're interested you know you can become a volunteer and they get so excited, you know, about the prospect of that because that's also one of the Old Guards goals is to get more young people involved because you know our membership is aging of course like any organization and we've got to bring in not only younger members with our organization but younger volunteers out here because, you know, volunteers out here are aging also and so it's great. Ben's been tremendous asset in bringing new younger volunteers out so it's good that we can all work together towards that same goal.

Ben: If you were able to snap your fingers and make the involvement, mainly volunteers in the Old Guard and the Fort, what would that look like?

Kristin: I would just love to see them number of volunteers that are available to come out here double. It's such an amazing experience for people when they come out on a special event like Memorial Day. When you can feel like you have stepped back in time and see what life was really like when the buildings are staffed with women over on Officers' Row and men in the Barracks and men out on the Parade Ground, you go into the hospital and there a Steward and a Surgeon and maybe a Matron and, you know, then you go over to the Shops building and there's a baker you know making bread and somebody in the Wood Shop and Pete Bethke or, you know, a volunteer working in the Blacksmith Shop. The fort really comes to life, and I mean that's the whole idea for people when they come out on special events is to experience that and feel like you've stepped back in time and can feel and smell and see what life was like back then. So you know if we can help encourage people to become volunteers by just making sure people are comfortable. You know, you don't have to have a vast knowledge of the story here, there are so many different people who can tell you whatever it is you want to know or need to know and you can just learn a little bit at a time. So you don't have to have experience you don't have to have the clothes. There's a closet full of clothes out here especially for women and soldiers so that's provided. And if you don't, you know, living history isn't your thing, there's lots of other volunteer opportunities with maintenance and working in the museum, in the visitor center, there's something for everyone to get involved. You know, if you want to start out with living history but you're nervous my advice would be to help with Candlelight-- the Candlelight Tour which happens I think it's the second Saturday in October every year. Because it's dark and no one knows who you are, they just hear voices you know. And if you don't want to speak you don't have to you get to experience it. My husband, who I've convinced to volunteer out here, his first experience was with Candlelight. And maybe I shouldn't tell this story but I'm going to go ahead and tell this story. But he was very adamant that he not have a speaking part and George said oh that's fine you know we'll just put you over in the barracks and you can play cards or checkers you know as they would have done in the evening. And about 30 minutes before start time one of the main characters over in the hospital we found out he was unable to come and I didn't know all this cuz I was in a different scene than Joel and I was preparing my scene but George says hey we need someone to play this part of an injured teamster with a broken leg and he walked into the barracks and it was Joel and I think some Boy Scouts volunteering maybe some high school kids. Their heads dropped down of course so Joel's like okay. So he went over there and stepped way out of his comfort zone and really played the part well, I hear. Which I didn't know any of this was going on and then afterwards I kept hearing oh my gosh that guy was so funny with the broken leg and then I figured out it was Joel, I absolutely could not believe it. So the point of this story is you don't know what you're capable of or what you might end up really enjoy doing until you know you give it a shot. But that doesn't happen very often you know if you want to sit and play cards and the barracks for Candlelight you know that's always an option. But it-- that's a great place to start is that event.

Ben: It is. Yeah, I remember the first time I met Joel at my first candle light tour in 2019. He was a cook over in the Barracks. The real life soldier that I was playing was not a model soldier at all, refusing orders and creating ruckus and things like that and I felt bad half the time yelling at him and I think at the beginning of it I just sort of went up to him and like just you know this is who I'm playing I'm not like this I swear. But yeah no it's always fun at Candlelight and it's fun to make the Fort come to life in that unique way and that is really a unique event for us.

Kristin: And I also want to emphasize that the people that you get to meet at those events have so many fun stories and are so interesting. You know, we all have a common interest in history of course but people, you know, have all different backgrounds and from-- come in from different states and areas in the country and it's-- I've met the most amazing people doing this. So that's just another bonus to being out here is getting to know people who've become like family, you know, who are, you know, a little nerdy like me and enjoy that. You know, we all have a safe zone out here where we can be ourselves and it's really fun.

Emma: To volunteer out here I know you came out here with no experience. Do you think that was easier or do you think it would be easier if people came in with experience?

Kristin: I don't think it matters, cuz I think there's a place for every everyone. You know, Ben is very good at helping the men that come out here or you know the high school volunteers find a place where they fit. And I think that's true of any women that want to volunteer. You know, if you're not comfortable being an officer's wife you can be a laundress, I mean there's a new volunteer Liz that-- she's just found her place and she's over in the schoolhouse. So I think that you just, whatever you're interested in, you'll find your niche here with what you're comfortable doing.

Ben: Yeah and that's what-- whenever I have any ladies that might be interested in getting started or anything like that, no matter what role they're sort of aiming towards, I always try to find someone-- and usually it's you that they can sort of hang around and get an idea of what talking to the visitors looks like and some of the stories and how to answer some of the questions. Because on officers row you really are some of the first people that our visitors see even before they get to the Visitor Center and so they still have some of those basic questions that they want answered before they get to the Visitor Center and before they get to see the rest of the programs and things like that that we might have going on.

Kristin: Right, there's so many mentors that are available to help you and bounce ideas off of, ask questions. There's all kinds of people.

Ben: Now we've talked a little bit about the Old Guard's vision for attaining new artifacts and the goal with the village site, is there anything else in the future that you and the Old Guard have your sight set on?

Kristin: I'll just speak for myself. My dream project would be to rebuild the Cavalry Stables which is a very lofty goal I know. And I'm sorry Chappie if you're going to be hearing that cuz I know you made a comment about that in your episode. But I've also visited a little bit with Celeste about the project that you two are currently working on with the visual of the Laundress Quarters and the stables and I think that's definitely something that the Old Guard could help with when that project gets going. So I'm excited about that, you know, what we could do to help make that happen.

Ben: Yeah we might not have the physical Laundress Quarters in the window to the past or we might not have the physical Cavalry Stables in the augmented reality but at least we'll have it represented almost in real time.

Kristin: Right, so people can at least get a sense of what it looked like.

Ben: And if you want to see a physical structure of what our tables looked like, Fort Scott, their Dragoon Stables there have the exact blueprint as the Cavalry Stables would have had here. We just need to copy and paste.

Kristin: Yeah.

Emma: I guess a good question for anyone wanting to become a volunteer is like who do they need to talk to and what would their roles be at the Fort?

Kristin: So you'll need to come out to the Fort and get a volunteer packet -- just some paperwork to fill out that shows you're interested. And then visit with George or Celeste or Ben, any of those people can get you started and help you figure out what it is maybe that you want to do. I also want to mention that Ben is trying to put a band together so if for any musicians listening that's also another opportunity that would be really fun and it'll be a great addition to what's going on out here. So I think that's the place to start is just come out, look around talk to people, and then fill out that paperwork.

Ben: And don't be scared it's literally two pages of paperwork. We don't give you like a two inch stack of paperwork.

Kristin: No, correct.

Ben: So I guess as we wrap up, one question we've been asking each of our guests is how can our listeners, whether they're local or whether they're not, how can listeners help with your role here at the Fort and your role in the Old Guard.

Kristin: The main thing is just come out and visit the park often. If you're unable to do that, follow the social media pages, Ben does a great job with the Fort's page. Follow the Old Guard page, we would love to have people become a member of the Old Guard. Financial support is huge because that's what allows us to do the projects that we're involved in and find those artifacts to bring out here and there's a range of membership fees anywhere from $35 on up -- there are lifetime memberships available. Another thing that I would really like to see for the Old Guard is to find someone who has experience and knowledge or even willing to learn how to do grant writing, I think that would be huge for our organization and would open up a lot of doors and opportunities for what we would be able to do out here at Fort Larned. Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, when you visit the fort or if you see something going on encourage others to come out here. Let your local schools know that there are funds available for them to bring their students out here to experience it firsthand and we can help arrange that. That's what I would say just spread the word that Fort Larned is here and it has an amazing story that we want to continue to share.

Ben: Well with that, thank you very much for coming on and telling a little bit about yourself, the Old Guard, and the plans for the future.

Kristin: Thank you, thanks for having me, I've enjoyed it.

Ben: Have a good one.

Kristin: You too.

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Ben: Alright well thank you for taking a listen and thank you for listening to this finale of our season we do have a bonus episode coming up the first Saturday of March so if you're listening to this before then, make sure you take a listen to that one in the future. Thank you again for taking a listen if you don't already follow us on social media we are on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, also check out our website we have some great resources for you there.

Emma: You should also support the Fort Larned Old Guard's website and Facebook page.

Ben: Yeah, they have some wonderful content on there not just stuff that we post on our own social media but they got some unique stuff going on too that you want to make sure you keep up on. Make sure you leave us a rating and review if you enjoy taking a listen be sure to share it with your friends and family.

Emma: And we will see you next time on Footsteps: The Fort Larned Podcast

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