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Kelly Swingler was falling off escalators and still making it to the office. She had two operations in 48 hours and never once called in sick. She believed that was the badge of honour you earn in a demanding career.
It took two burnouts and two phone calls to make her stop. The first call told her the woman who replaced her in her HR Director role had died alone in a hotel room. The second confirmed she had been the fourth person in that role to become seriously ill. That was her rock bottom — not the personal collapse, but the pattern.
Kelly is now a global burnout educator who has coached over 700 leaders and trained doctors and therapists worldwide. She shares the specific moment that second call landed, her burnout equation — toxicity minus sense of self equals burnout — and what happened in 2024 when her body finally sent the bill for everything she had put it through.
If burnout has ever felt like a badge of honour, or you are quietly wondering whether you are heading for your own turning point, this one is worth your time.
Follow the show for new episodes every week.
If you've had a "feck it, no more" moment and want to share your story — or know someone who should — reach out to Glenn directly:
By Glenn MonaghanKelly Swingler was falling off escalators and still making it to the office. She had two operations in 48 hours and never once called in sick. She believed that was the badge of honour you earn in a demanding career.
It took two burnouts and two phone calls to make her stop. The first call told her the woman who replaced her in her HR Director role had died alone in a hotel room. The second confirmed she had been the fourth person in that role to become seriously ill. That was her rock bottom — not the personal collapse, but the pattern.
Kelly is now a global burnout educator who has coached over 700 leaders and trained doctors and therapists worldwide. She shares the specific moment that second call landed, her burnout equation — toxicity minus sense of self equals burnout — and what happened in 2024 when her body finally sent the bill for everything she had put it through.
If burnout has ever felt like a badge of honour, or you are quietly wondering whether you are heading for your own turning point, this one is worth your time.
Follow the show for new episodes every week.
If you've had a "feck it, no more" moment and want to share your story — or know someone who should — reach out to Glenn directly: