Fourth Wall: the podcast

You’ve seen her make her Broadway debut in The Notebook, and now she’s swimming into history as Ariel in The Little Mermaid at Paper Mill Playhouse — but Hillary Fisher is doing so much more than just singing under the sea.

In this episode, we dive deep with Hillary about what it means to break the mold as a Black woman in theatre, how to hold your ground when the industry pushes back, and why playing an iconic role is both powerful and political. We also talk about wellness, movement, and making space for joy — from Pilates to tennis to the quiet power of rest.

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🎭 Catch The Little Mermaid at Paper Mill Playhouse — now through Sunday!

📚 Book mentioned: The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey

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Money! Everybody needs it, but everyone hates talking about it. Let’s dive in with our special guest and host of Artistic Finance, Ethan Steimel! Want to know more? Don't just read about it—press play to dive into today's episode. 

Check out Ethan’s podcast and website to get all those amazing resources and even more gems!

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Listen to our old episode on Artistic Finance: https://pod.link/1511439191/episode/b2f0013626cdbb8c22f7ef941f14e455

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🧠 Is it time to move to London? And NO this is not just because I am binging Bridgerton for the 10th time... Want to know more? Don't just read about it—press play to dive into today's episode. 

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🎶 Theme music by⁠ Ben Bailey⁠ (@benianbailey on IG)

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🧠 Who needs to take the A train to Pearl Studios when Telsey can watch that TikTok you made in your room... Want to know more? Don't just read about it—press play to dive into today's episode. 

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Skip to 03:28 to miss all of my ramblings about being back!

🧠 We’re breaking the fourth wall on theatre’s biggest conversations, and this one’s no exception. This dream is EXPENSIVE and sometimes the winners are the ones who had enough dollars to stay in the game... Want to know more? Don't just read about it—press play to dive into today's episode.

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🎶 Theme music by Ben Bailey (@benianbailey on IG)

Welcome back to a star-studded new episode of Fourth Wall!

*disclaimer this was recorded before the recent announcements of COVID-related shutdowns so we don’t talk about it*

Today, Alaina and Corey catch up and recap 2021. It’s been a YEAR YALL! Corey is in NYC and thriving, Alaina is MOVING to NYC with a new job at Playbill. Plus, you KNOW we had to talk about the Broadway news we missed. Tony Awards, Sondheim, Movie Musicals, ALL OF IT! We end the ep manifesting our dream Broadway shows and dream 4W guests!

Do you have an experience to share about Discrimination in the Arts  or any of the other topics we’ve discussed on 4W? We wanna read that shit! Send it to us so we can get your perspective and possibly share it on the show! → [email protected].

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Fourth Wall on Instagram: @thisisfourthwall (instagram.com/thisisfourthwall)

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Hosts: @alainanewell (instagram.com/alainanewell) @coreyindahouz (instagram.com/coreyindahouz)

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Fourth Wall: the podcast

is created with TLC by Alaina Newell (@alainanewell) instagram.com/alainanewell

Director of Talent: Ashani Smith (@ashanihadiya) instagram.com/ashanihadiyah

With original music by Ben Bailey (@benianbailey) instagram.com/benianbailey