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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.

Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.

In this episode…
Paul Mills interviews Sofiane Morouche, a fractional CMO based in Thailand. They discuss the fractional leadership model, its appeal, and the challenges faced by fractional leaders. Sofiane shares his journey from traditional marketing to becoming a fractional CMO, the misconceptions surrounding the model, and the importance of integrating into client organizations. He emphasizes the flexibility and strategic advantages of fractional leadership, as well as its potential for growth in the future.

Special Guest
Sofiane Morouche, Fractional CMO, Growth Connect Thailand

Learn more about Growth Connect https://growthconnect.io/

Key takeaways

• To be a fractional leader, you need prior leadership experience.
• The fractional model allows working with multiple clients simultaneously.
• Fractional leadership is still developing in Asia compared to the US.
• Clients need to be open-minded about the fractional model.
• Fractional CMOs focus on strategy, not execution.
• Integration into client organizations is crucial for success.
• The fractional model offers flexibility for experienced professionals.
• Companies need to be financially stable to hire fractional leaders.
• The future of fractional leadership looks promising post-pandemic.
• Curiosity and openness are key for business leaders considering fractional CMOs.

Sound Bites

• "You need to have a bit of background."
• "I started in traditional marketing."
• "I came across the concept of fractional leader."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.

Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.

In this episode…

In this episode of Fractional Futures, Paul Mills interviews Michelle Allbon, a Fractional Chief Revenue Officer based in New Zealand. They discuss Michelle's journey into fractional leadership, the challenges and opportunities it presents, and the current state of the fractional model in New Zealand compared to other regions. Michelle shares insights on the misconceptions surrounding fractional roles, the importance of understanding deliverables, and the future of fractional leadership as a sustainable work model. Additionally, they touch on the launch of the Fractional Directory, aimed at mapping and legitimizing the fractional community in New Zealand and beyond.

 
Special Guest
Michelle Allbon, CEO & Co-Founder The Fractional Directory

Learn more about the Fractional Directory https://www.fractional.co.nz/

Key takeaways

• Fractional leadership is often stumbled upon rather than planned.
• The fractional model allows for flexibility and work-life balance.
• New Zealand's fractional community is still in its early stages.
• Misconceptions about fractional roles can lead to mismatched expectations.
• Fractional leaders can deliver results in fewer hours than traditional roles.
• The demand for fractional leadership is growing post-COVID.
• Understanding deliverables is key to hiring fractional leaders.
• The fractional model is becoming more recognized globally.
• Technology integration is crucial for fractional leaders in all sectors.
• The future of work will likely include more fractional roles.

Sound Bites

• "I think it's a more stable way to build a career."
• "Fractional is just going to be what leadership is in the future."
• "It's a real de-risking model."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.


In this episode…

In this final episode of Season 1, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss common pitfalls associated with a portfolio career. They cover topics such as identifying growth traps, maintaining quality while scaling a service, financial management, planning for growth, and staying ahead of industry trends. Dan emphasizes the importance of finding time to build your brand and nurture relationships, rather than dedicating 100% of your time to one client. He also advises knowing your ideal client profile and being selective in order to avoid overcommitting. Paul and Dan also discuss the challenges of managing sustained growth and future-proofing your career in a competitive market.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Identify growth traps in a portfolio career and find time to build your brand and nurture relationships.
• Know your ideal client profile and be selective to avoid overcommitting.
• Maintain quality while scaling a service by prioritizing incumbent clients and developing processes to manage multiple clients simultaneously.
• Future-proof your career by creating value-based products, developing a safety net option for existing clients, and staying focused on your core offer.
• Stay ahead of industry trends by selectively pivoting and avoiding overloading your offering with too many skills and capabilities.

Sound Bites

• "You have to find time to build your brand, to nurture the existing relationships that you've created and to create new relationships."
• "Define your ideal customer in both directions, not just what they are, but what do they need and what does that mean for you?"
• "Your time is always best spent looking after incumbent clients because the cost of acquisition for new clients is so high."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.


In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills  and dan Gwalter discuss the challenges faced by Fractional CMOs and how to navigate the personal transition when entering a portfolio career. They cover topics such as establishing credibility, building resilience, managing work-life balance, and the importance of sales and marketing skills. They emphasize the need for adaptability, learning from rejection, and finding support from others. They also discuss the integration of work and personal life and the importance of taking regular breaks and regrouping. The episode concludes with a discussion on mindset and the challenges of growth in fractional leadership.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Establishing credibility and building a brand takes time in the fractional landscape.
• Sales and marketing skills are essential for success in a portfolio career.
• Rejection is often a 'no, not now' rather than a permanent rejection.
• Finding support from others and seeking feedback is crucial for personal resilience.
• Work-life balance in a portfolio career requires integration and finding a blend that works for you.
• Taking breaks and regrouping is important for mental and physical well-being.
• Mindset plays a significant role in navigating the challenges of growth in fractional leadership.

Sound Bites

• "Establishing credibility and building a brand takes time in the fractional landscape."
• "Sales and marketing skills are essential for success in a portfolio career."
• "Rejection is often a 'no, not now' rather than a permanent rejection."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.


In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss the strategies fractional CMOs can adopt to grow their portfolio. They cover topics such as leveraging networks and referral mechanisms, building thought leadership, and managing multiple clients without compromising on service quality. The main takeaway is that business development is the primary struggle for fractional consultants, and it requires dedicated time and effort. They emphasize the importance of getting the foundational elements right, such as identifying ideal customers and understanding the purpose of content. They also discuss how to manage an increasing client base and the option of forming strategic partnerships.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Business development is the primary struggle for fractional consultants.
• Dedicate a healthy amount of time each week to ongoing business development.
• Get the foundational elements right, such as identifying ideal customers and understanding the purpose of content.
• Manage an increasing client base by adjusting pricing, forming strategic partnerships, and maintaining a balance between work and personal life.

Sound Bites

• "The bit that fractional consultants cite as their primary struggle is business development."
• "If you price per hour, then most people will benchmark you on a 37 and a half hour type week."
• "Your profile shouldn't be a CV. It should be a landing page for your business."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.
 
 

In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss how Fractional CMOs can become trusted advisors to their clients. They explore the meaning of being a trusted advisor and how to transition from being a service provider to a retained advisor. They also discuss the importance of building an advisor-level relationship and the value of integration into the client's business. They provide insights on pricing advisory services and the pitfalls of using an hourly rate model. The episode concludes with a preview of the next episode on strategies for expanding client relationships.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Fractional CMOs need to establish themselves as trusted advisors to maintain long-term client relationships.
• Being a trusted advisor means providing high-level expertise and guidance to clients.
• Transitioning from a provider to an advisor requires building trust and credibility over time.
• Integration into the client's business and involvement in strategic decision-making can increase the value offered as a fractional executive.
• Pricing advisory services should be based on fixed monthly rates with agreed deliverables, rather than an hourly rate model.

Sound Bites

• "When I think about advisor, I think the consultancies get this right and they have, they always have done."
• "The whole concept of being the trusted advisor, the key word in that sentence is trusted."
• "The more integrated you get into the business, the more value you can offer because you're having those conversations."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.
 
 

In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss the process of winning and managing clients as a fractional marketer. They cover topics such as the client engagement process, effective negotiation techniques, and securing client engagements. They emphasize the importance of focusing on revenue-generating activities and building trust with prospects. They also highlight the need for a well-defined client journey and touch points, as well as the importance of understanding objections and addressing them in the sales process. The episode concludes with a discussion on closing deals and the different approaches for direct clients and allies.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Focus on revenue-generating activities when starting a fractional consulting business.
• Build a well-defined client engagement process and understand the touch points in the client journey.
• Address objections and have answers prepared to appease potential clients.
• Learn from both successful and unsuccessful deals to refine your approach.
• Set expectations and maintain momentum in the negotiation and closing process.
• Differentiate between direct clients and allies and tailor your approach accordingly.

Sound Bites

• "Invest your time in the things that are going to generate revenue for you."
• "Think about the process as a backwards and forwards, where your role is to fulfill your half of the equation while guiding the prospect on the journey."
• "You can't just talk to people once or twice and expect them to jump into bed with you."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.

In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss the importance of trust in B2B client relationships for fractional marketers. They explore strategies for building trust and leveraging it for long-term client retention. They emphasize the need for personal branding and authenticity, as well as providing value through thought leadership and nurturing activities. They also discuss the role of accreditations and continuous professional development in building trust. Finally, they share insights on how to turn one-time clients into long-term partners by managing expectations and delivering on promises.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.
 

Key Takeaways…

• Trust is crucial in B2B client relationships for fractional marketers.
• Building trust requires personal branding and authenticity.
• Providing value through thought leadership and nurturing activities helps build trust.
• Accreditations and continuous professional development can enhance trust.
• Managing expectations and delivering on promises are key to retaining long-term clients.

Sound Bites

• "Trust is there in relationships, partnerships, personal relationships, business partnerships."
• "Corporate catfishing: creating a brand that is not authentic to who you are."
• "Attraction content is about authenticity, nurturing content is about value, and conversion content is about social proof."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

Fractional Marketing Leadership | Marketing Transformed.

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.
 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.


In this episode…

In this episode, Paul Mills and Dan Gwalter discuss how marketers can articulate their value and set themselves apart as fractional leaders. They explore the importance of defining a unique value proposition and tailoring messages to different audiences. They also highlight common mistakes marketers make when building their value proposition. The conversation emphasizes the need to focus on the emotional benefits and understanding the client's pain points. They provide practical tips and tools for marketers to articulate their value effectively.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.
 

 Key Takeaways…

• Defining a unique value proposition is crucial for marketers to set themselves apart as fractional leaders.
• Marketers should focus on the emotional benefits they provide and understand their client's pain points.
• Tailoring messages to different audiences is essential for effective communication.
• Avoid common mistakes like being too generalist or making it all about yourself.
• Use tools like Graham Robertson's functional and emotional benefits cheat sheet to articulate value effectively.

 Sound Bites

• "When you transition out of perm, the biggest mindset shift is you are not an employee."
• "Start off with a smaller product... that enables you to work with clients, demonstrate credibility and authority in your domain whilst building that all important trust."
• "Makes yeah, it makes perfect sense. And I think you know when I was transitioning into the fractional CMO role, it was very obvious that I needed that I guess low cost but high value thing diagnostic tool that someone can take part in."

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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Fractional Futures is the essential podcast for CEOs, investors, and senior marketing executives looking to unlock the power of fractional marketing leadership.

 
Hosted by Paul Mills, Founder at VCMO, and with special guests, we'll share expert insights, provide actionable strategies and explore real-world success stories to help you leverage fractional marketing leadership for maximum impact.


In this episode…
Paul and special guest Dan Gwalter discuss the importance of having a diagnostic offer as a marketer in the fractional leadership space. They explain that transitioning into a fractional role requires a shift in mindset and a different approach to packaging oneself. They emphasize the need to start with a smaller product, such as diagnostic audits or health checks, that can be sold for a fixed cost and provide a low-risk entry point for clients. They also discuss the different types of diagnostic tools, the importance of promoting and monitoring them, and the need to focus on one offer at a time.

Special Guest
Dan Gwalter, Founder No-Nonsense Leadership

Dan has kindly offered a complimentary 30 minute consultation to anyone who wants to know more about his fractional executive coaching service. You can book using this link.


Key Takeaways…

• Transitioning into a fractional role requires a shift in mindset and a different approach to packaging oneself.
• Starting with a smaller product, such as audits or health checks, can provide a low-risk entry point for clients and help build trust.
• There are two types of diagnostic tools: free and paid. It is recommended to have both to attract different types of clients.
• Promoting and monitoring the diagnostic offer is crucial for its success. LinkedIn, emails, and personal messages can be effective channels for promotion.
• It is important to focus on one ideal client profile and one niche with one offer at a time.
• Establishing oneself in the fractional marketing space takes time and consistent effort, but it can lead to differentiation and success.

Contact VCMO

• Connect with the host on LinkedIn
• Tweet us at @VCMO_UK
• Email us at [email protected]
• Visit our website vcmo.uk
• Phone us +44 (0) 331 630 9395

Thanks for listening & keep podcasting!

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