Giorgio Ponticelli sits down with Roland Butler, Head of Product, Content Solutions at Zalando and former product leader at Just Eat, Bookatable, The Fork and VavaCars. Roland shares his candid perspective on how AI is reshaping product management, why relationships matter more than frameworks, and what it really takes to thrive as a product leader today.
Roland explains how to balance top-down ambition with bottom-up feedback, why too many tasks kill prioritization, and why communication is the most underrated product skill.
You'll learn:
- How AI is changing the product role without replacing it
- Why stakeholder trust and over-communication beat any tool or process
- The balance between customer pain points and internal priorities
- Why junior PMs need both soft and hard skills to succeed
- The leadership principles that remain timeless across startups, scale-ups, and corporates
Plus, Roland reveals his most practical advice for aspiring product managers: learn to work with others, adapt your communication, and not being afraid to take risks.
If you are a Founder, Product Manager, or Operator navigating the impact of AI, this episode of Frames Of Tech is essential listening.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro & welcome
01:05 Will AI replace product managers? Myths vs. reality
07:03 Balancing top-down ambition with bottom-up feedback
11:20 Why companies lose sight of customer pain points
13:20 Backlogs, prioritization & building stakeholder trust
18:00 Defending product decisions & over-communicating
20:30 No-meeting culture vs. real relationship building
23:20 Where AI really helps (and where it wastes time)
29:30 Leadership principles that never change
31:20 Startups vs. corporates: what truly makes the difference
35:20 Advice for aspiring product leaders: skills that matter