A rather personal Frank and Stan Chat for Frank this week as he has invited a good friend of his son, Chris Murphy, as the guest. Chris chose not to follow the path many of his friends followed when they left secondary school and College finally ending up at university. Chris chose an apprenticeship through a sprinkler installation business and this has enabled him to progress to be a Director of the business. He also identified a problem in how businesses order and quote for work so he has developed an app called ONSO, which enables greater control of the process and enables users to investigate the data more accurately. Stan kicks off by questioning The Express newspaper and the PM and Chancellor's basic understanding of mathematics, before Chris considers whether footballers should have a higher moral benchmark than others and Frank congratulates Ofsted for his insightful report on T Levels. It's the final chat of the academic year and a great one to sign off for five weeks. Enjoy.

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