The final chat of 2023 sees Eric Craven, the Scouse Poet, return for the third time. He is the regular 'go-to' guest for the final chat before Christmas and he never disappoints. He has a new anthology of poems just published called "Love, hurt and whimsy'. He reads two contrasting poems from the collection as well as a new poem about his son. Despite much news in the world of education we glide over this and concentrate on some positive insights. The end of the chat includes a summary of the viewing figures for the year and the 10 most-watched editions. We hope you enjoy it. Frank and Stan is not about achieving record breaking viewing figures but we hope our musings provide some support and at times comfort in these difficult times. We are back on 12 January and have future guests lined up until mid-summer. Thank you for your support and encouragement.

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