In this episode Frank returns to the airwaves to chat with Mike Morris, Golf Course and Property Manager at Crystal Downs Country Club, a classic Alistair MacKenzie/Perry Maxwell course in Frankfort, Michigan. Crystal Downs is thought to have been a motivation for Mackenzie’s work with Bobby Jones on his next project, Augusta National. Mike also has been a pioneer in data driven management, “you can’t manage what you don’t measure”.

Frank end’s the episode chatting with Professor Lee Miller of the University of Missouri about the early 2021 season and philosophically managing turfgrass stress and disease.