One of our besties (as the kids say) comes on the pod to talk how crucial he was to solving the Y2K problem, IT changes over time, why he can't sit down and just relax, pre-school memories (or lack therof), and local OKC celebrities. Sit back, ask Jamie to program your VCR, and enjoy.

Ben Russ makes an appearance as the first real guest of FOBAD (Friends of Brad and Dale). The trio talk about growing up in West Texas, how a perfect golf shot shaped his career, stalking his future wife, his undying respect for his elders, and how he hasn't earned the right to wear a cowboy hat. We also discuss the unexpected early reach of the podcast to the Far East.

Dale interviews Brad about early influences, why nephrology was the choice for him, and about his love story that started with the Oklahoma Gazette.

Brad interviews Dale to kick things off. We talk about Dale's varied careers, his core values, and how he could not have survived rural living.

Brad and Dale try to lay out their rationale for putting this podcast together. What gives us the right?